On the Platform for three points.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by TEE

And Lee, did your team try building a hanging mechanism?

Their robot (picture on TBA) does not appear to have any hanging capability. As they are rookies, I am not surprised at this; even many veteran teams had a hard time hanging.

As for using a ramp to put another robot in a given position being simpler and easier, witness 2007 and the many crashes from elevating mechanisms. For some reason, I can't find any pictures of 201 from that year on TBA or CD, so I don't know if they tried the "simple and easy" task of elevating another robot or not.

[TEE]

When I said simple and easy, I meant building a ramp to allow another robot to climb up to the platform; if well designed, building such a ramp would be much easier, although I'll admit it may be harder to implement in a match. (Further, it probably would require less weight and power to operate)

My point was that if you awarded, say 4 points for getting onto the platform, the teams that built robots to climb ramps, and robots with ramps, would earn as many points as two robots capable of lifting themselves, a task far more difficult than building/climbing a ramp.

As for lifting another robot as well as yourself, that would be pretty amazing and would merit recognition

(I only joined 201 in 2008, and the only robot before then I can remember was our Aim High robot, although I think I remember that we used something like a forklift last time we hanged)

[TEE]

I'll do some research... I'm sure I can find a picture of our '07 bot somewhere...

[Lee Reid 3136]

I would like everyone to keep in mind that I am biased in this discussion and since the season is over it doesn't really matter. This was just an idea I had one day. I think even if it is not worth an extra point game point, some seeding points should be awarded to the rampbot's team. It is because of them that their alliance gets those points and yet they don't have anything to show for it.

As for the comments about how it was unwise to build rampbots in the first place. Some teams don't have the funds, time, weight, manpower, etc. to build a hanger but still want to be able to contribute to their alliance in some way. It is a team sport we're supposed to work together.

Originally Posted by NickE

There are multiple ways to get on the platform. In theory, a robot could be built to drive onto the platform from the bump. For most teams, this was probably harder than simply hanging, so they chose to hang instead.

It would be harder and that is why I think it should be worth more points.

Originally Posted by TEE

And Lee, did your team try building a hanging mechanism?

No we didn't, we lost 2 weeks of build season due to snow and we were lucky to have a kicker. If we had qualified for nationals we would have worked on hanging.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Lee Reid 3136

I would like everyone to keep in mind that I am biased in this discussion and since the season is over it doesn't really matter. This was just an idea I had one day. I think even if it is not worth an extra point game point, some seeding points should be awarded to the rampbot's team. It is because of them that their alliance gets those points and yet they don't have anything to show for it.

All members of the alliance get the finale points.

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by Lee Reid 3136

It would be harder and that is why I think it should be worth more points.

Just because something is harder does not mean it is better.