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Pre-event scouting--IRI

Correct me if this isn't the right place for this...


I am doing a little bit of scouting for IRI. It is a database of the teams attending IRI and the specs about their robot and competition season.
There are a lot of great teams and FIRSTChat and BlueAlliance don't have everything about a team. I have taken a look at 1114's database(which is great, BTW), and I need info that is slightly more up-to-date. Plus, many teams make drastic changes to their 'bots in the summer.

I'd like to hear from the teams themselves.



If your team is going, can you please give me these specs of your team and bot:

Team:
  • Events Attended(individual divisions, Einstein is a separate event and records for each
  • Highest scored match(ex: Arizona Regional, Qual XX, 12-15, LOSS) (winning or losing)
  • Season record as of the end of the World Championship

Robot:
  • Does your Robot hang?
  • Over the bump?
  • Through the tunnel?
  • Drivetrain specs?
  • Special notes? (Hang time, position, driver changes from competitions, perferred field placement)

A link to a picture would also be great

All the help I can get is appreciated

I will release the app when I get sufficient information(65 or more teams).
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Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI

Writing an app might be harder than something like a simple PDF. But if you're going to do my precouting work for me I won't complain.

I would ask people for hang time and position as well. I can't think of anything else particularly useful.
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Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI

I would also include if the team is using their usual drivers or not. I do not think it is a coincidence that atleast 2 of last year's IRI winners (1625, 68; not sure about 469) used their normal drivers.
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Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI

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Writing an app might be harder than something like a simple PDF. Butbut you're going to do my precouting work for me I won't complain.
While I can't argue with the PDF idea, i will say this:
The app is quite simple, actually. It is written in java. It loads an XML of team data. With some changes, It can be used from competition to competition with no problem. Contributions from the CD community are the most reliable source for the data

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I would ask people for hang time and position as well. I can't think of anything else particularly useful.
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I would also include if the team is using their usual drivers or not. I do not think it is a coincidence that atleast 2 of last year's IRI winners (1625, 68; not sure about 469) used their normal drivers.
Those are good Ideas. I guess that would go under notes.
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Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI

Well, can't give ya much more than the win loss stuff for every single team. Hope it helps.
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Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI

We're going.
All of our win/loss data and match scores are on TBA. But, I'll include them anyways:
Events Attended: 4

Kettering District (week one)
Record: 14-6-0 in entire competition, including elims.
Highest match scores: 9-12 qual 45 WIN, 14-6 Finals3 LOSS
Other notes: GM Industrial Design award.

Troy District (week four)
Record: 14-3-3 in entire competition, including elims.
Highest match scores: 0-16 qual 61 WIN
Other notes: District Chairmans award, Coopertition award.

Michigan State Championship (week five)
Record: 11-4-1 in entire competition, including elims.
Highest match scores: 20-10 qual73 WIN, 26-12 qual25 LOSS (against 469)
Other notes: State Chairmans award.

Archimedes Division:
Record: 13-3-0 in entire competition, including elims.
High scores: 18-7 QF2, WIN, 21-17 Finals2, LOSS

Season totals:
Record: 52-16-4
Highest won match: 20-10 qual73 at MSC
National GM Industrial Design award.

Robot features:
Hangs quickly from vertical pole every time. We only missed one hang in Arch. because we were knocked off by an opponent (red card violation) and we almost hung again.
Deploys from start in 2 seconds (while driver is lining up), lifts in 4 seconds after locked. Not hard to line up - Driver rams the claw into the pole. If it's within the two antennas (about 12" space), it will latch.
Goes over bump smoothly, center wheels float to maintain stability and ensure that no wheel is more than 2" above the ground or bump. Traverses bump at full speed in low gear (aprox. 6 ft/sec). No tunnel, but it can just as easily climb the bump.
Drivetrain: 6wd floating-center, center wheel can be forced down to drop-center by arm. All wheels powered. 2-speed trans, 12ft/sec and 6 ft/sec.
Collector: top-roller pincher type collector, floating assembly to avoid carrying penalties.
Kicker: spring-powered kicker with window-motor recoil, software variable and linearized (it kicks about 35 feet, so I'll say 33 since thats a really nice number. Roller automatically ejects ball when kicking to limit roller's resistance to kick.
We will have the same drivers for IRI.
No camera tracking, but camera display on Dashboard (not enough power to do tracking)

We are changing almost nothing during the summer (OK, we are adding some stickers and changing the tire treads).
Pictures: I dont have any right now, but if you search for Kettering or Michigan State Championship pictures, Daniel Ernst from LasGuerrillas posted a ton of pics from those events, and we are in there.
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Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI

I'm planning on collecting this data anyway, so I'll send you a PM with what I get in order to help you out.

Anyway 1714's info for you. I didn't get to work on the robot or with the team much this year (just Championship scouting) but here's what I got.

Wisconsin Regional (week two)
Record: 9-5-2 (6-2-2)
Highest match scores: 10-4 QF2-2 WIN, 7-9 QF2-1 LOSS
Other notes: Engineering Inspiration, Excellence in Design

Minnesota 10,000 Lakes Regional (week five)
Record: 13-1-2 (7-0-2)
Highest match scores: 13-9 SF1-2 WIN, 6-8 SF1-1 LOSS
Other notes: UL Industrial Safety, Engineering Excellence, Coopertition, Regional Winner

Galileo Division
Record: 8-7-0 (6-4-0)
Highest match scores: 20-0 Qual 132 WIN (hostile 6v0), 19-11 Qual 121 WIN, 0-14 QF4-1 LOSS
Other notes: KCP&B Entrepreneurship Award

Robot:
1714 does not hang.
We can go over the bump or under the tunnel.
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Same drive team for IRI.
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Team 343

Events:
Florida:
11-5
Number 7 seed (number 4 alliance captain)
Semi-finalist
Xerox Creativity Award

Palmetto:
14-3-1
Number 1 seed
Champions
Xerox Creativity Award

Newton Division:
13-4-1
Number 15 seed
Selected by #2 Alliance
Finalists

Total Record: 38-12-2

Notes:
-Hang on vertical pole
-Over the bump
-Under the tunnel
-Ball magnet for control
-Kicker that can score from opposite end of the field
-Tank treads (trying to change to 8 wheel drive, not sure)
-2 Speed
-New drivers
-Preferred Start: Far Zone


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Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI

Not info related, but.
Does anyone have any problems with a text-based app? I'm no good with Java Swing. I know some of the stuff, but barely enough to get it by IRI. I can put out version later and have people tell me what they think.

I wrote a BAT file to launch it in windows, if you are linux or mac, you're on your own in launching the JAR.
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Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI

Scratch my previous post, I found a couple great tutorials about the subject. I migh have it done a week before the event
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Events:
Virginia Regional (NASA/VCU)
9-2-4
(Initial 14th seeding rank) first pick by 1st Seed
Champions
Engineering Inspiration Award

North Carolina
14-2-0
1st Seed (Alliance Captain)
Champions
Motorola Quality Award

Galileo
14-2-0
1st Seed (Alliance Captain)
Finalists
Coopertition Award

Total: 37-6-4
Highest score: Galelio Qualification Match 121 (19 Points)

Robot Notes: (As of Atlanta)
Six Wheel Tank Drive (Super-Shifters and 4 SIMs)
12 or 5 Feet per Second
Powerful and Accurate Pneumatic/Surgical Tubing Kicker (Over one bump and bounces over second)
Reliable Pinch Roller (Fisher Price)
Over the Bump
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Happily, the EngiNERDs are attending IRI for the first time ever! I don't know if I will personally attend, but I wouldn't miss it if I could.

Team: 2337 "EngiNERDs"
Events Attended(individual divisions, Einstein is a separate event and records for each

Kettering District: (10-5-2) Semifinalists, Spirit Award
Ann Arbor District: (15-3-2) CHAMPIONS, Quality Award
Michigan State Championship: (7-5-2) Quarterfinalists (ran into 469 )
Curie Divison - World Championship: (8-5-0) Quarterfinalists

Highest scored match 17-10 (469, 67, 2048 vs. 2337, 397, 308 at MSC) LOSS

Season record as of the end of the World Championship (40-18-6)

Robot:
Does your Robot hang? Y
Over the bump? N
Through the tunnel? N
Drivetrain specs? 4-wheel Mecanum with Toughboxes
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-WE SUSPEND. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obXxvgInsI0 One of 3 worldwide, only one in Michigan.
-WE HANG. FAST. With rough timing off of a YouTube video, under five seconds. It also makes an awesome sound.
-WE START IN THE MIDDLE. ALWAYS. Our robot has a ground clearance of about an inch, as early in the build season we decided having the ability to travel between zones was not a good focus for our team. As well, we have a low CG (was only flipped once in the final match in the elims at Curie, as the opposing robot jammed a ball under our robot and then got us stuck on the bump)
-Before MSC, we put on a deflector onto our hanger (see video above with the suspension for more info). We can deflect while hanging and on the ground. When in the air, there is a V at the bottom to deflect balls in the general direction of the goal. With team 910 at MSC, we won 19-5 (highest score where we won) by simply deflecting for them.
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Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI

Quick update:

Since there have been no contributions in 2 days, I'll make a list of the teams whose info I have.

GREEN - Means up to date, complete
ORANGE - Means no incomplete or out of date
BLACK- Means I have ZERO info

Code:
1 16 Bomb Squad
2 33 Killer Bees
3 45 TechnoKats
4 48 Delphi ELITE
5 51 Wings of Fire
6 67 HOT
7 68 TTT
8 70 More Martians
9 71 Team Hammond
10 93 NEW Apple Corps
11 107 Team ROBOTICS
12 111 Wildstang
13 116 Epsilon Delta
14 118 Robonauts
15 135 Black Knights
16 141 WO-BOT
17 148 RoboWranglers
18 171 Cheese Curd Herd
19 217 Thunderchickens
20 233 The Pink Team
21 234 CyberBlue
22 292 PantherTech
23 294 Beach Cities Robotics
24 330 Beach Bots
25 343 Metal-in-Motion
26 359 Hawaiian Kids
27 393 Full Metal Jackets
28 399 Eagle Robotics
29 461 WBI
30 469 Las Guerrillas
31 494 Martians
32 503 Frog Force
33 537 Charger Robotics
34 573 Mech Warriors
35 694 StuyPulse
36 829 Digital Goats
37 830 Rat Pack
38 832 Oscar
39 868 TechHOUNDS
40 888 Robotiators
41 910 Foley Freeze
42 980 ThunderBots
43 1018 RoboDevils
44 1024 Kil-A-Bytes
45 1038 Thunderhawks
46 1058 PVC Pirates
47 1086 Blue Cheese
48 1094 Channel Cats
49 1108 Panther Robotics
50 1114 Simbotics
51 1327 S-Botz
52 1477 Texas Torque
53 1501 Team THRUST
54 1519 Mechanical Mayhem
55 1529 CyberCards
56 1538 Holy Cows
57 1592 Bionic Tigers
58 1625 Winnovation
59 1640 Sab-BOT-age
60 1646 Precision Guessworks
61 1675 UPS
62 1714 MORE Robotics
63 1718 fighting Pi
64 1720 PhyXTGears
65 1730 Team Driven
66 1732 Hilltoppers
67 1741 Red Alert
68 1747 HBR
69 1902 Exploding Bacon
70 2056 OP Robotics
71 2062 CORE
72 2081 Icarus
73 2171 RoboDogs
74 2194 Fondy Fire
75 2337 EngiNERDS
76 2481 Roboteers
77 2771 Code Red Robotics
78 2775 Jackson Area Robotics
79 2826 Wave Robotics
80 2949 pwnage
81 3138 Innovators
82 3176 Purple Precision
If you are shown in ORANGE or BLACK, post your info here,
If you are shown in GREEN, thank you very much!

If you don't want to reveal your team's info, I respect your privacy, just shoot me a PM saying you don't want to, or with the info there.

App updates:
I plan on a Fourth of July release date for the app.(given that I have sufficient team information
The graphical version has been coming along well and the text version just got a rewrite.
It is in java, so it is OS neutral.

I can also have the data in various text formats if you cannot afford to bring a laptop to the event.
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2017 - San Diego Regional / Sacramento Regional / Las Vegas Regional
2016 - Los Angeles Regional Creativity + Winners (1197, 987, 5012) / Las Vegas Regional Team Spirit + SF (5012, 5851, 5049) / Galileo Subdivision
2015 - Inland Empire QF (597, 5012, 4413) / Las Vegas Imagery + Winners (148, 987, 5012) / Newton Subdivision and World Champions (118, 1678, 1671, 5012)
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Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI

Team 294: Beach Cities Robotics

Events:
San Diego Regional
Record: 9-8-1
High Score: QF4-2: 10-4 (Win)

LA Regional
Record: 13-4-1
High Score: S2M1: 13-6 (Win)

Newton Divison
Record: 13-1-3
High Score: S1M1: 19-11 (Win) & FM3: 19-11 (Win)

Einstein
Record: 4-1-0
High Score: FM1: 16-14 (Win) & FM2: 16-13 (Win)

Season Record
39-14-5

Robot:
Hang? No
Over the Bump? Yes
Through the tunnel? Yes
Drivetrain: 4 CIM 6WD 2 Speed Transmission
Special Notes: CAN bus system, Auto for all 3 zones

Pictures:
http://picasaweb.google.com/rickandr...43122200751890
http://picasaweb.google.com/rickandr...26787079493186
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2014: LA FRC Champions
2012: LA FRC Finalists
2011: San Diego FRC Finalists
2010: San Diego FTC Finalists, San Diego FRC Champions, LA FRC Finalist, FRC World Champions
2009: LA FRC Finalist
2008: San Diego FRC Champions, LA FRC Finalist, LA FTC Champions, LA VCR Champions,
2007: San Diego FRC Finalist, San Diego FTC Champions, FTC World Champions
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Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI

Team 573, The Mech Warriors scouting info:

Events Attended:

Ann Arbor District
Champions (16-3-1)
Alliance 2 captain, 3rd seed

Troy District
Semifinalists (10-6-0)
3rd overall pick, 11th seed

Michigan State Championship
Quarterfinalists (9-5-0)
Alliance 4 captain, 5th seed

Curie Division
Quarterfinalists (9-5-0)
11th overall pick, 12th seed

Season record: 44-19-1

High score: 19-14 (w) Curie quarterfinal 4.2



Robot specs:

Drivetrain:
4 wheel tank drive with mechanum wheels
8 feet per second

Kicker:
Variable speed rotating kicker
Ability to score from all three zones

Hanging:
No ability to hang: we can score as many, if not more points without hanging in the last 20 seconds.

Autonomous:
We have ten autonomous programs, including multiple programs for far, mid, and near zones. We can also block 469 from getting into the tunnel.

Other notes:
We are strictly a tunnel bot with a very low ground clearance. We have only been pushed on top of a ball twice.

We designed our robot with the rulebook in front of us, so we never get penalties for robot design flaws and rarely get penalties for gameplay.

We currently do not know how we are going to set up our drive team with regard to this event. The current idea that is going around is that we will swap drive team members, but we will keep somebody with experience on the field. If we do end up as an alliance captain or getting picked, we will put our best drivers in and do our best.

The most balls we have scored at once is five.

Our bumper design allows us to switch bumpers in around 30 seconds for quick turnaround. Our plexiglass lid on the top of our robot has quick release hinges and surgical tubing for quick and easy access to the electronics box.

WE HAVE NEVER BROKEN YET THIS YEAR! It got very boring in our pits.

Our team is full of spirit and pride. Our robot is almost completely student built and mentor supervised. We have a corner of a classroom to work in; no shop. This has been our best season in our nine year history, so we are extremely proud of our accomplishments.


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