pic: FRC Robots are the best mode of transportation!

[fireyoshi]

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[Rion Atkinson]

That's awesome. You should put a chair and seat belt on there. Perhaps a little safer?

Still... I love the idea. Did it help?

[Bjenks548]

Originally Posted by Formerly Famous

That's awesome. You should put a chair and seat belt on there. Perhaps a little safer?

Still... I love the idea. Did it help?

Haha we rode our robot around at a freshman orientation like this (along with dragging 3 people). We also have "chair bot" which was our v2 drive train, a six wheel with a chair on top of it (the school doesnt know where the chair went...) unfortuanly "chair bot" isn't powered but we still have fun with it.

[gorrilla]

That is unsafe. No safety glasses and you're riding on the robot?
Not to mention the possibility of a chain grabbing and pinching various body parts

[Alex Cormier]

Originally Posted by gorrilla

That is unsafe. No safety glasses and you're riding on the robot?
Not to mention the possibility of a chain grabbing and pinching various body parts

Exactly how I feel. If you are going to show pictures or videos like an above poster has mentioned. Please think of safety. Also, what would your team think if you damaged any part of the robot let alone yourself?

Think people.

Yes, safety glasses are important! They will definitely do a great deal when your cranium possibly impacts the floor at a decent velocity, or when the robot bucks you into a wall!

It's the act that is unsafe, not the lack of (nearly useless in this situation) equipment.

[Edoc'sil]

Lighten up safety addicts, your like the plague. Honestly, the best way to teach someone how to swing a hammer is to let him smack his thumbs a few times... It is unlikely that someone will retain permanent damage from ridding their bot, and they could learn a few valuable lessons on the teachings of Darwin and Newton....

[gorrilla]

Originally Posted by Edoc'sil

Lighten up safety addicts, your like the plague. Honestly, the best way to teach someone how to swing a hammer is to let him smack his thumbs a few times... It is unlikely that someone will retain permanent damage from ridding their bot, and they could learn a few valuable lessons on the teachings of Darwin and Newton....

That statement scares me, there is absolutely no reason for someone to get hurt when it could have been prevented. Regardless of the lesson they would learn.

[Edoc'sil]

Originally Posted by gorrilla

That statement scares me, there is absolutely no reason for someone to get hurt when it could have been prevented. Regardless of the lesson they would learn.

Honestly, I heal now, I won't heal so well when I am old. Better to make my mistakes now, no?

[gorrilla]

Originally Posted by Edoc'sil

Honestly, I heal now, I won't heal so well when I am old. Better to make my mistakes now, no?

Honestly, why make the mistake at all?
While what you are saying is somewhat true, the logic defys me....

[,4lex S.]

Better to make mistakes never actually.

To be fair though, doing this kind of thing is pretty common practice, and as long as everyone is relatively careful, mostly safe. This was the only way my team had of testing on the Regolith with close to full weight in 2009. When done with a little forethought, it isn't terrible (Chain guards are important, and so is electrical isolation). Do remember to consider and eliminate hazards before you do this kind of thing though. And if it seems kinda sketchy, just don't.

[Alex Cormier]

Originally Posted by Edoc'sil

Honestly, I heal now, I won't heal so well when I am old. Better to make my mistakes now, no?

How many fingers should a punch press worker loose before they learn to use the machine properly?

[Edoc'sil]

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier

How many fingers should a punch press worker loose before they learn to use the machine properly?

That is different, a punch removes a finger far more easily then a decently shielded DT, also that is a adult at a business, not a kid ridding a robot. I did make the age distinction for a reason, in general a workplace, especially a operating machine shop, tends to be more dangerous then a school. I would strongly suggest safety when losing limbs is possible as a consequence.
possible the kid on the bot could break a few fingers and get some other more serious damage to his fingers, but the chance of it removing a finger are fare less then on an industrial tool.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Edoc'sil

That is different, a punch removes a finger far more easily then a decently shielded DT

Drivetrains with more shielding than this one have sheared fingers before.

[Basel A]

The point is not that probably, nothing will happen, or that it's mainly safe. It's not that in youth injuries will heal, or that robots are more safe than machines. It's the point that this was a situation that was LESS SAFE than it COULD be. I'm no advocate of blast shields on FRC fields, but at least make an effort. It's easier to learn from someone who lost a finger than to lose a finger yourself. In consideration of that, it may have been better to wear safety glasses, add a seat, ensure electrical isolation (probably done already), or simply use dumbbells or other athletic weights.

Again, it all comes down to the fact that you know it could and should be safer, but aren't making it any safer. Easier to learn from another person's experience than your own.