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Question Should we bomb/strike Iraq

I was kinda woundering what you guys think about striking Iraq? I personaly think that we should only strike if we have the support of the UN. Although, I think this whole thing was started by the US goverment. Its kinda like, we havent seen Bin Laden for some time and we need to put a face on this war against "terror". Why not Hussain (spelling?) people have been trained to hate him.
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Re: Should we bomb/strike Iraq

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I was kinda woundering what you guys think about striking Iraq? I personaly think that we should only strike if we have the support of the UN. Although, I think this whole thing was started by the US goverment.
Well, yes. Except that, well, just because everyone's doing it, that doesn't make it okay. Sound familiar? Go talk to your mother

I am not nearly as educated as I'd like to be with regard to whatever is happening in the Middle East because, honestly, I have enough madness in my own life that needs keeping. With that said, though, I'm terrified of the actions and motivations of our government, I doubt the intelligence, morality, and virtue our the President, and I'm worried that apathy combined with entitlement will lead to injustices.

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Re: Re: Should we bomb/strike Iraq

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Yep. Thats basically how I feel, in a nutshell, just put better than I could ever write it.
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Know you know why we all hated Bush. We made a mistake electing him. He should go. I don't care if it's Gore, or whoever, he's awful and needs to leave NOW.
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I'm going to have to diagree with you guys here.

Bush 1 should have eliminated Hussein in the first place, but unfortunately he didn't. Clinton most definitely should not have allowed the weapons inspectors to be kicked out, but he didn't. He should have stood up to him then and put a quick stop to it. However he didn't, we now have a dictator whose had over four years to do whatever he's wanted in the way of weapons program. He's used them before I know that , you know that then what makes you think he won't use them again. The fact is we need to enforce the rules of the war we've already won. We can not allow or afford to let Iraq get any weapons. I think and I think that you do to that the past two administrations have seriously dropped the ball on the entire Iraq issue.

If someone has a better idea of how to do settle this i would love to hear it. However their are only two. Unrestricted weapons inspectors, or we go in and do it ourselves. The first is just a ploy for time and they are most likely jerking us around. That's why we need a resolution in place to setup a couple of rules and conseqeunces, so Iraq cant prolong this thing long enough to the point when they can say, We have the bomb try and attack us now.
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It's completely wrong to bomb Iraq. Their nukes, apparently, are "weapons", but the USA's are "defensive". I'm not sure what the USA is thinking to go to war without the UN's support. Plus, it's mere assumption that Iraq will be bombing us with them. By going in, it's mere folly and could THEN result in us getting retaliated upon. This is kinda like the Athenian/Melian debate recorded by Thucydides a looong time ago. Athens wanted Melos without considering anything. That's the gist of it. The Athenians won, but unlike back then, the USA's size doesn't matter. A few nukes'll screw everyone up. I don't see how the president would even consider this (or Tony Blair). His Texan Drill in Alaska! theory really should not even be in the friggin White House. If he even considers running next election, he might as well throw his Republican soft money down his... drain. Btw, check out the lyrics to the song I'm listening to right now (A New Kind of Army - Anti Flag).
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If the United States takes unilateral action agains Iraq, we will practically be opening the gate for Russia to invade Georgia (no, not the state north of Florida), and China to invade Taiwan.

I don't support attacking Iraq, at this point in time.

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Bah he bombed the kurdish people with chemical toxins so much that he actually managed to warp the DNA of the people in that whole area and actually manage to turn the land into a wasteland. There is proof that he has practiced mass genocide with his army. It's not that hard to find it with sattelites and I'm not talking about pictures of buildings but of pictures of communities being burned down. His misstress has said that he likes to watch people be executed for fun. All this information was found on the news and reading magazines. You want to do nothing. Doesn't this sound a wee bit familiar???
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Bah he bombed the kurdish people with chemical toxins so much that he actually managed to warp the DNA of the people in that whole area and actually manage to turn the land into a wasteland. There is proof that he has practiced mass genocide with his army. It's not that hard to find it with sattelites and I'm not talking about pictures of buildings but of pictures of communities being burned down. His misstress has said that he likes to watch people be executed for fun. All this information was found on the news and reading magazines. You want to do nothing. Doesn't this sound a wee bit familiar???
The United States, under Reagan, supported Saddam Hussein in a war against Iran. The Defence Intelligence Agency gave Saddam huge amounts of information to kill other people.

I think the Native American Nation has more of a reason to use nuclear weapons against the US Government than the US Government has reason to attack Iraq.

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Right on wysiswyg.

As for those who want Gore in there. Gore was a large part of the Clinton administration, who did practically nothing against Osama and Al Queda during the first WTC bombing. Where would we be now if Bush did nothing in Afganistan? Maybe dead, Al Queda had several other plans that were stopped. Where will we be in 10 years if we do nothing against Saddam? Probably the same. We can't wait until something happens to stop somebody, which defeats the whole purpose of why we want to attack. Then something does happen and we say, "Well, why didn't we take them out the first time?" Time to take some initiative for once.

I say if we take him out that's one less danger in the world, and more freedom for his people. Go get'm Bush.
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We shouldn't bomb Iraq. We should just dig a big hole to the Earth's core with nuclear weapons and the dig site should just happen to be in the middle of Iraq.

I doubt attacking Iraq would end well.

I have a question about attacking Afganistan too.
Where do we test nukes? IN THE DESERT.
Where are the terrorist hiding? IN THE DESERT.
So wouldn't nuking terrorists just be like testing weapons? It's not like moutain caves are in really populated areas.

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The probelm with that is radiation. The only nuke tested in deserts were the first ones to be built. After that they started becoming more and more powerfull, thus more radiation. So testing was moved to remote islands.

Besides, nuking in Afganistan would just kill the people we just helped to save. Then we would be the terrorists.

(On a more personal note, I want nothing to do with nuclear weapons, in any war, ever. There is just no point to them.)
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Bah he bombed the kurdish people with chemical toxins so much that he actually managed to warp the DNA of the people in that whole area and actually manage to turn the land into a wasteland. There is proof that he has practiced mass genocide with his army. It's not that hard to find it with sattelites and I'm not talking about pictures of buildings but of pictures of communities being burned down. His misstress has said that he likes to watch people be executed for fun. All this information was found on the news and reading magazines. You want to do nothing. Doesn't this sound a wee bit familiar???
Umm, wow.

You wouldn't be implying that Saddam Hussein has anything in common with Hitler, would you? Please, please say 'No.'
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