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Re: The Top Ten

Closest to 60 is 171-180

171 - Strong Wisconsin team, a few regional wins
172 - The other pink team!
173 - 2002 Champions, 2007 Einstein, cool robots with cool arms
174 -Won 2 FLRs in a row and Buckeye in 2006
175 - Incredibly consistent, won a regional or division every year they existed except 2002 (CCA) and 2010 (fluke)
176 - 1999 World Champion, various regional wins throughout the decade, always the underdog
177 - 5 consecutive years on Einstein is all you need to say.
178 - Decent Northeast team
179 - "176 of Florida" always puts out a cool and unique robot that's strong at a tough event
180 - Former greats that always try something cool every year, 2002 Finalists
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Re: The Top Ten

231-240 is another pretty strong set.
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Re: The Top Ten

Most accomplished group of 10 in the 4 digit range IMO goes to 171x...

1710 - 16 awards at 8 official events
1711 - Awards at every event 3 years running
1712 - Lots of awards - especially impressive given their veteran area
1714 - Multiple regional wins and regional chairman's
1716 - Multiple visualization awards
1717 - At least a finalist at every regional 3 years running
1718 - Powerful Michigan team
1719 - Umbrellas!
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Re: The Top Ten

I like the larger blocks of teams too that seem to appear, like
20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90
110,120,130
230,240
350,360,370

Most of these also benefit from longevity (but that's also the definition of a "best team"). It might be meaningful to divide by years too. Then more stellar younger teams would float to the top.

Teams ---- #
up to ---- Awards
70 ----- 264
120 ---- 176
180 ---- 170
50 ----- 158
240 ---- 158
80 ----- 150
350 ---- 142
30 ----- 132
360 ---- 130
40 ----- 126
60 ----- 121
20 ----- 120
110 ---- 120
130 ---- 120
370 ---- 117
230 ---- 105
90 ----- 101
150 ---- 101
470 ---- 101
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Re: The Top Ten

Not to plug our own ten, but the 340's are pretty good for only having 6 teams. Especially with Chairmans...

340- 5- RCA,2- Division champs, 2-regional champs, 2-regional finalist
341- Hall of Fame,4-RCA, 1-Divison Champ, 4- Regional Champs, CMP EI
342- 4-RCA, 1-Regional Champ, 3- Regional finalists
343- 2-RCA, 1- Division Champ, 4- Regional Champs
346- 1- Reginal Champ, 3- Regional Finalist
348- 1- Division Champ, 1 CHMP Finalist

... 1 Hall of Fame, 15 Regional Chairman's Awards, 5 Division Champs, 12 Regional wins.
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Re: The Top Ten

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Not to plug our own ten,...
Don't worry, by Koko Ed's definition you aren't in that group...
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... 1 Hall of Fame, 15 Regional Chairman's Awards, 5 Division Champs, 12 Regional wins.
13 Regional Wins (we have 5 )
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Re: The Top Ten

how about 71-71?
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Re: The Top Ten

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13 Regional Wins (we have 5 )
There's probably more mistakes, got the info off the FIRST website.
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Re: The Top Ten

Normalize the question, otherwise the results are skewed and we can spend days arguing. "Best in the History of FIRST" shouldn't pit 1994 teams against 2010 teams because the dynamics are completely different between then and now.

I'd suggest an era-based approach, for example a 'last 5 years' approach. Dynasty teams from the early 2000's that haven't produced much as far as mult-regional wins, Einstein or CMP awards in recent years shouldn't get love over teams that have for the 'last 5 years'.

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The old-schoolers ('92-'99) denoting the days before coopertition
The ramp-up ('00-'04) denoting the years before FRC really hit the bend in the exponential growth curve and also introduction of common COTS gearboxes
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The old-schoolers ('92-'00) denoting the days before coopertition
Slight correction.
Co-opertition started in '99. (Tecknocats were the last sole champ in '98 and Juggernauts, Delphi Elite and Aces High were the first Co-Champs in '99)
Divisions started in 2001.
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... for example a 'last 5 years' approach. Dynasty teams from the early 2000's that haven't produced much as far as multi-regional wins, Einstein or CMP awards in recent years shouldn't get love over teams that have for the 'last 5 years'.
That approach mixes things up a bit.

For the years 2005 to 2010

Teams
Ending
at ---- #Awards - #Teams
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70 ------- 117 --------- 7
120 ----- 105 --------- 7
360 ------ 89 ---------- 7
240 ------ 87 ---------- 7
1720 ---- 85 ---------- 9
180 ------ 84 --------- 10
350 ------ 79 ---------- 5
40 ------- 74 ---------- 5
370 ------ 74 ---------- 5
1520 ---- 72 ---------- 9
80 ------- 66 ---------- 6
230 ------ 64 ---------- 8
470 ------ 61 ---------- 6
300 ------ 59 ---------- 6
1630 ---- 58 ---------- 4
50 -------- 57 ---------- 4
110 ------ 56 ---------- 5
60 -------- 55 ---------- 6
1750 ----- 55 ---------- 9
130 ------ 54 ---------- 6


Note that the 1711-1720 & 1741-1750 blocks only existed for 4 of those 5 years.

It's also interesting that for the 171-180 block of teams, each and every one of the teams remains active.
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Re: The Top Ten

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Not to plug our own ten, but the 340's are pretty good for only having 6 teams. Especially with Chairmans...

340- 5- RCA,2- Division champs, 2-regional champs, 2-regional finalist
341- Hall of Fame,4-RCA, 1-Divison Champ, 4- Regional Champs, CMP EI
342- 4-RCA, 1-Regional Champ, 3- Regional finalists
343- 2-RCA, 1- Division Champ, 4- Regional Champs
346- 1- Reginal Champ, 3- Regional Finalist
348- 1- Division Champ, 1 CHMP Finalist

... 1 Hall of Fame, 15 Regional Chairman's Awards, 5 Division Champs, 12 Regional wins.
Team 343 has 6 regional championships.
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Team 343 has 6 regional championships.
I count 8 Regional Championships for Team 343.

2001 FL
2001 VA
2002 FL
2002 MO
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Re: The Top Ten

Wow the FIRST website is terrible for records. You'd think THE organizing body would keep the best records.

Good thing we have CD.
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