Seeking advice / opinions

[EricH]

Do you have another job?

Could you mentor via distance (Skype, AIM, videoconference, email, etc)?

Could you take a less lead position in the mentor corps? What I mean is have one of the other mentors take the "head mentor" position, but remain as a mentor (and mentor the mentors as needed).

Are there local veteran teams that could help take up the slack by taking your team under their wing?

[3195mentor]

Originally Posted by EricH

Do you have another job?

No I haven't held an official job since Feb. MANY job offers and interviews, but no luck, and my money is running out faster than BP's spending on the gulf cleanup...

Originally Posted by EricH

Could you mentor via distance (Skype, AIM, videoconference, email, etc)?

I have no idea how busy my schedule would be in the military as a systems/network engineer or cyber security analyst. I have a few friends in the Marines and Air Force, but they barely get enough time to chat once a week...

Originally Posted by EricH

Could you take a less lead position in the mentor corps? What I mean is have one of the other mentors take the "head mentor" position, but remain as a mentor (and mentor the mentors as needed)

Unfortunately both instructors have after-school tutoring classes for science / physics, but allow us to utilize the classroom. The students would not get the same attention that I have given them in the past.

Originally Posted by EricH

Are there local veteran teams that could help take up the slack by taking your team under their wing?

Hmm... Team 812 might be able to, although I'm unsure about how efficient or convenient it would be for them. I will have to look into that.

[Jon Stratis]

While its tough to say, it sounds like you need to take care of yourself and your family first in this situation. It's better to take the plunge now than it would be in January - it will give the team some time to adjust to the new reality and figure out what to do. That said, there are a few things you can do now to help get the team through the next year without you:

- Help them try to find new mentors. Yes, the new mentors won't have the experience you do, but if they have the time and technical knowledge, it will be a huge help to the team.

- Pass on your knowledge. Meet with the other mentors and the student leaders on the team and make sure they know as much as you can teach them in whatever time you have. Taking notes/making a binder with faqs and info could greatly help them.

- Help them develop a plan for the build season. As sad as it may sound, losing a single member or mentor can (as in this case) severely affect what a team is capable of. If you can't be around, then the team's goals need to change. Instead of building the best robot in FIRST next year, they need to focus on getting something out there. A successful season wouldn't be measured by overall ranking or medals at competition, but by getting through the season together and having a robot that works. Set up a timeline for the build season, and make sure its clear who has the responsibility for keeping the team on it.

- Make sure they have your contact information. Yes, you may not have time to be very involved, but you can probably find the time to respond to a few e-mailed questions and point them in the right direction.

- Make sure they know of the outside resources they can depend on. Chief Delphi (obviously). Other local teams. Other teams who are willing to mentor them remotely. The FIRST community is amazing when it comes to that.


Your team was incredibly fortunate to have a seasoned FIRST mentor working with them - not very many get that as rookies (I know our team didn't). Yet, those teams manage to make it - and with passion and drive, I'm sure your team will too.

In closing, I'll just remind you (and all the other impassioned people here) that we all have lives outside of FIRST. The time we spend with our teams is amazing (both for us and for them), but real life situations come up that require us to sometimes sacrifice that time. Mentoring won't pay your bills or put food on the table (unless your students bring in cookies... hint hint if any Robettes are reading this!). As mentors, we're roll models to these kids, and making decisions that hurt our careers or families sends them the wrong message. I think more than anything we can teach them, it's how to make the right decision when the choices are difficult. How to sacrifice in order to keep going. We do it all the time when working on the robot (giving up on one bit of functionality in order to ensure the rest works like it should, for example) - we need to do it in "real life" as well.

[3195mentor]

Originally Posted by eagle33199

While its tough to say, it sounds like you need to take care of yourself and your family first in this situation...

Thanks for the response,

Yes, it is a very difficult decision for me. I see the team as more of a family than I do as a club, which makes the decision ever more difficult. However, as you said, hopefully I can get another mentor to take my place soon enough before the kickoff and be able to leave with at least somewhat of a clear conscience about it.

[EricH]

1) Get another mentor or two. Talk to sponsors and parents about wanting/needing more mentors.

This takes some load off all the mentors by giving more people to spread it around to. It also increases team knowledge.

2) If you're going to make a move, tell the team now. See above; it's easier to deal with it earlier. It wouldn't hurt to give them a heads-up that your status may be changing, either.

3) 812 is not the only "local" team... Team San Diego should be able to find someone or some way to help. (For those that aren't familiar with Team San Diego, it has the same function as WRRF, SCRRF, IndianaFIRST, and other local robotics groups--help the teams in the area around it.) 1266 is a little closer than 812, for example.

4) What is the level of parental involvement? If you have no parents at all involved in any way, shape, or form (other than transportation), you may need to change that. Well, take out the "may" from that. It doesn't matter if they're simply bringing meals once a week or so, or are helping prototype major parts of the robot. Having those parents around can help make or break the team.

5) What about looking into the Reserves or the National Guard? Those are military, but can be closer to home than, say, the Navy.

[Cory]

Your life is far, far more important than a high school robotics team. Do whatever you can to ease the transition for them and do whatever you have to do to feel secure about your future.

The kids will understand.

[kstl99]

While there is a lot to consider before going into the military, the team should not be one of them. You are a volunteer. Your responsibility, imo, is to help them with getting through the next few seasons without you. Great advice above should help that, especially the get more mentors advice. I think your team has been lucky to have a mentor with your experience and who cares so much about the team but this seems like yet another example of FIRST mirroring the work environment where sometimes key employees move on and others need to take over.

[ttldomination]

3 Years ago, our primary mentor's company was facing tough times. The company was losing money, and the mentor was devoting more time than ever to robotics.

But he did what he had to do to support his family, and left the team to work harder at the company, and today, while he's not with the team anymore, he's more financially stable.

Today, we have 4 awesome mentors who have stepped in to fill the void that was left by the previous mentor. I think that if you leave something you love and cherish to support your family, then people will ultimately respect you more, and your team will have nothing but respect for you.

- Sunny