Registration 2011

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

Of course Michigan, theoretically, has no room for any more teams at the 8 Districts.

Michigan has room for more District events. Adding another would let 180 teams have the full experience.

[Mark McLeod]

Michigan teams just went to 164, somewhat beyond the theoretical District limit.

That beats California's current 162 total teams.

Texas has added a few more teams to the event lists.

Buckeye reached it's initial capacity.

The Netherlands is back, but attending Seattle instead of their usual Las Vegas Regional.

[Foster]

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod

Michigan teams just went to 164, somewhat beyond the theoretical District limit.

FIRST is all about going past theoretical limits.

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod

Michigan teams just went to 164, somewhat beyond the theoretical District limit.

That beats California's current 162 total teams.

Texas has added a few more teams to the event lists.

Buckeye reached it's initial capacity.

2 Districts with 42 teams in them. Not optimal but I know Kettering can handle it and it is one of the smaller venues.

[IKE]

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber

2 Districts with 42 teams in them. Not optimal but I know Kettering can handle it and it is one of the smaller venues.

4 teams over require 8 slots. Thus it would be 42 teams at 4 events or ... >40 teams would require extra matches. I would prefer that if they expand an event, they would wait until the later events. Kettering seems to have a lot fo field related downtime associated with it due to being a Week 1 event. I really like where Alan's going with the 9th event. That would be pretty sweet.

[BJC]

If they made a 9th event, I'm sure many Michigan teams would jump on the opportunity to go to a third district event. Problems arise when you start asking how to choose which teams go and how the extra district is going to effect the Michigan ranking system. I'm sure there are other less obvious problems too. Otherwise... YA!

[Andrew Schreiber]

IKE is right of course, I was not suggesting they come to KU merely that it, being a very small venue, can handle 42 teams so most other places should be able to.

Originally Posted by BJC

If they made a 9th event, I'm sure many Michigan teams would jump on the opportunity to go to a third district event. Problems arise when you start asking how to choose which teams go and how the extra district is going to effect the Michigan ranking system. I'm sure there are other less obvious problems too. Otherwise... YA!

In 2009 when we were last allowed to register for 3 events it was first come first served and the 3rd one counted for nothing.

[Karibou]

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber

IKE is right of course, I was not suggesting they come to KU merely that it, being a very small venue, can handle 42 teams so most other places should be able to.

I agree that KU can handle 42 teams...barely. I would certainly not push it past 42. The venue IS small, and once you start dropping below 8-feet-wide pits (which is what I believe that we had at KK11), it gets frustrating. For example, by a stroke of bad luck, we had 6 and a half feet of pit space in Traverse City. I'll just say that it was not fun. Very cramped, and unsafe.

If anywhere else is smaller than KU, I'd wonder why it was chosen to host an event. The other venues that I've been to (Troy, Detroit, and TC) could certainly hold a few more teams without much of an issue, and I understand that the venue for Western MI is large as well.

[Mark McLeod]

Broke 1800 teams this morning.

[J93Wagner]

SWEET!!!! HERE'S TO EXPONENTIAL GROWTH!!!

(I couldn't resist the CAPS LOCK.)

[Mark McLeod]

Only four teams away from the number that played last year.
P.S. Reached 1808 about a day later, just before 9am EST on 11/16, the same number as played in 2010. We haven't matched the peak of 1826 from 2010 yet though. Usually, the list of teams falls back a bit from it's peak within a week or so of registration closing.
The Wisconsin Regional is also now at initially advertised capacity. That means 10 Regionals are still open book, plus the Texas events immediately show Texas teams that fit their criteria.

I'd hazard a guess that an additional 30-40 teams are simply invisible while they're cooling their heels on waitlists, and with some of the known late registering areas, i.e., Israel, we'll easily have more teams than last year. Probably not exponential though. This is definitely a slow growth year, but we'll still probably break 1900 teams.
We do have more rookie teams (280) than last year (277). Not so many resurrected vets (9) as last year (21).

P.S. I'd also guess that there are ~150 teams on the Championship waitlist, based on last year's numbers, and this year's drop in available open slots.

Here are where the missing ~300 teams are from and by their rookie years.

Still missing by rookie years (rookie year/# missing/as a % of teams remaining in 2010 from that rookie year):

1998 & earlier -- 3 --- 3%
1999 ----- 5 ------ 8%
2000 ----- 10 --- 16%
2001 ----- 1 ----- 1%
2002 ----- 6 ----- 7%
2003 ----- 5 ----- 7%
2004 ----- 18 --- 17%
2005 ----- 28 --- 24%
2006 ----- 25 --- 17%
2007 ----- 38 --- 22%
2008 ----- 31 --- 14%
2009 ----- 63 --- 23%
2010 ----- 61 --- 22%


Missing by location:
Israel ----------- 41
MI --------------- 21
NY --------------- 21
TX --------------- 21
CA --------------- 15
MN -------------- 15
OH -------------- 10
CO --------------- 9
FL ---------------- 8
IL ---------------- 8
Canada-ON ----- 7
HI ---------------- 7
MA --------------- 7
NJ --------------- 7
VA --------------- 6
AZ --------------- 5
GA --------------- 5
IN ---------------- 5
LA --------------- 5
NH --------------- 5
PA --------------- 5
WA -------------- 5
DC --------------- 4
SC --------------- 4
UT --------------- 4
CT --------------- 3
MD --------------- 3
MO --------------- 3
MT --------------- 3
NC --------------- 3
OK --------------- 3
OR --------------- 3
TN --------------- 3
AL --------------- 2
KY --------------- 2
MS --------------- 2
NM --------------- 2
NV --------------- 2
WI --------------- 2
AK --------------- 1
Canada-AB ----- 1
Canada-BC ----- 1
Canada-QC ----- 1
KS --------------- 1
ME --------------- 1
ND --------------- 1
PR --------------- 1
Turkey ---------- 1

[RoboMom]

Some of these teams aren't yet missing.
They are on the waitlists.

[waialua359]

Our team missed out on registration of a 3rd regional during week 6 since we were in Japan as we tried just one day later.
As we searched for other regionals during that week, they were all booked.
We're playing a wait and see being on a waitlist.

[Mark McLeod]

We now have more than 300 new teams counting both the rookies and new instant veteran-status teams.

California and Michigan are tied with 164 teams each.
Five areas have more than 100 teams each (century areas if you will).

• (164) California
• (164) Michigan
• (118) Texas
• (108) New York
• (104) Minnesota

Seattle Cascade has opened up again, so there are a few more slots for willing teams.
Israel teams are trickling in, up to 17 now.
A few more Texas teams got admitted to each of the local Regionals, but there's still a lot of room for the waitlisted teams.

I was just counting the number of fields that FIRST needs this year and it looks like 14 are necessary. 13 active all at once week 3, plus the spare field they usually talk about. Maybe a separate mockup field back at HQ?

Attached is a plot of the registration progress thus far.

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I'll be off grid for a couple of weeks starting tomorrow, so feel free to talk amongst yourselves...
If some of you wouldn't mind posting the registration total every few days or so I'd appreciate it. That way, when I return, I can see what happened while I was gone.

[thefro526]

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod

P.S. I'd also guess that there are ~150 teams on the Championship waitlist, based on last year's numbers, and this year's drop in available open slots.

I wonder if there are even that many. I wouldn't doubt it, but according to one of our head mentors who spoke with FIRST HQ in regards to the waiting list, it sounds like Championship Registration is down this year and that many of the teams registered may not have payed yet.

My guess would be that on (EDIT) January 28th we'll see quite a few teams drop out because of lack of payment, at which point those who have the funds available will slip in.