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Team 68's 40 days of chassis Design.

So I have decided to CAD up 40 potential chassis's until kickoff .
Ya... Feel free to ask questions, give advice ect.
The Robot Renderings may not be to detailed due to lack of time.



It's like Brainstorming with Hours of effort and cool pictures.
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Re: Team 68's 40 days of chassis Design.

Things I like: she is pretty

Things that could use improvement/addition:
-Gearbox and chain run mounts should always be added to your CAD, they are pretty much the most important thing in a drive train besides the frame.
-Twisting forces are going to be rough on the two drive pods. Due to their cantilevered nature.
-1/4" plate is way to thick for this application, I think you will lose a lot of weight with less material and some well placed spacers.

As a side note, why CAD 40 drive trains and spend 60+ hours when you could just do a napkin sketch? (I do admit CAD is fun, but it isn't really a necessary part of engineering design)
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Re: Team 68's 40 days of chassis Design.

Day 2 ... and I have took your advice and added a transmission, but this design was finished 2 days ago so I did not make it out of thinner aluminum or add spacers for structural integrity.




The 6X6 were designed for climbing stuff, life steps or ramps, they were done days ago so they have no trans.
The big problem with this design is... Where do you mount the bumperes...

And I am doing this for fun/ Practicing my cad skills.
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Re: Team 68's 40 days of chassis Design.

Yeah mounting bumpers would be insane. Nice design though.
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The mecanum wheels are mounted incorrectly on image16.



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I do admit CAD is fun, but it isn't really a necessary part of engineering design
I think most engineers would disagree with the latter half of your statement.
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I think most engineers would disagree with the latter half of your statement.
I would claim that it isn't necessary but it certainly makes it easier. Hand drafting is still a perfectly viable way of designing a product. I think what Alex could have said was that CAD is not necessary for working through the rough stages of an idea.

Regarding this entire thread, Instead of doing 40 different chassis please consider doing a couple chassis with several revisions of each. I like the concept of giving yourself a short time line as it will increase your skills but I think this would be a better use of time if you got something you could use out of it.
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I am doing this for fun/ Practicing my cad skills.
An important part of the skillset for CAD-ers is DFM and CE. Are you working closely with your teammates to ensure that your team has the tools and expertise to actually make what you are drawing?


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Re: Team 68's 40 days of chassis Design.

Very cool project, and I am sure your 40 designs will inspire others along about January 8th or so
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Very cool project, and I am sure your 40 designs will inspire others along about January 8th or so
I hope so that would be awesome!
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I think most engineers would disagree with the latter half of your statement.
Just for clarification, I don't discount CAD as an engineering tool. I do however believe it is best to work up to it with sketches, rough technical drawings, and calculations first. Without CAD I wouldn't likely have a job I could tolerate .
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Re: Team 68's 40 days of chassis Design.

Day 3...Hear you go.


This one ^ was from inside the support bar. In regards to weather or not we can make these chassis the team owns a cnc mill and a couple lathes so we can make alot. Previous years have been much more extravagant than our last robot. What killed us last year was our drive train, we did not "Keep it simple stupid"
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Re: Team 68's 40 days of chassis Design.

Wow thats a lot of milling on those side pieces. You might consider going to a thinner tube wall thickness (1/16" over 1/8"). It would probably lighter than the heavily pocketed 1/8" wall thickness tube that you have there and might be stronger too.
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Re: Team 68's 40 days of chassis Design.

In addition to Nick's comment I also have to point out that with this system you will run into the same problem you did last year once you decided to lock your wheels. This frame will drive forward and back very well but will not turn.
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In addition to Nick's comment I also have to point out that with this system you will run into the same problem you did last year once you decided to lock your wheels. This frame will drive forward and back very well but will not turn.
Ya I probably should have used eater an omni wheel in front or and 08 KOP wheel.

And I have had about 6 chassis done before any comments about wall thickness came into play, so the future designs may be thinner.
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