iPhone Driver Station, No Computer Needed

[viperred396]

Nice idea! i would love to see a port for android phones sometime

[billbo911]

Originally Posted by viperred396

Nice idea! i would love to see a port for android phones sometime

Ditto!

[mobilegamer999]

Me and my friend are hoping to make an android version, it will take me a little time to get used to the android sdk versus iPhone sdk, but I will keep everybody posted on android status

[2bkrul]

That is epic. The only question is...can we use it in competition

[hipsterjr]

Originally Posted by 2bkrul

That is epic. The only question is...can we use it in competition

I foresee a lot of controversy at competitions with these app, even though I think it is great.

[Patrickwhite]

With the new driver station software, are there any updates that render this unusable for the time being? It would be nice to have this able to run the kit bot from day one [two I suppose].

[Natesbug73]

Has anyone heard whether this is legal to use in competition? I can't see why it wouldn't be, is there anything that says you [i]have[i]to use the netbook and joysticks?
Technology is ever changing, and the fact that a team has created a virtual driver station using a technology that so many members already own should be embraced!!

[jhersh]

Originally Posted by 2bkrul

That is epic. The only question is...can we use it in competition

Originally Posted by Natesbug73

Has anyone heard whether this is legal to use in competition? I can't see why it wouldn't be, is there anything that says you [i]have[i]to use the netbook and joysticks?
Technology is ever changing, and the fact that a team has created a virtual driver station using a technology that so many members already own should be embraced!!

You would have to ask on the Rules Q&A, but I don't see any chance of this being allowed. The app doesn't support communicating with the Field Management System and there is no Ethernet plug on your iPhone to plug it into the field.

Rule R52 in Section 4 of the Rules pretty clearly disallows the app in its current form...

One D-Link DAP-1522 is the only permitted mechanism for communicating to and from the ROBOT during the MATCH. All signals must originate from the OPERATOR CONSOLE and/or the Field Management System, and be transmitted to the ROBOT via the official ARENA hardware. No other form of wireless communications shall be used to communicate to, from or within the ROBOT (e.g. radio modems from previous FIRST competitions and Bluetooth devices are not permitted on the ROBOT during competition).

-Joe

[mobilegamer999]

Originally Posted by Patrickwhite

With the new driver station software, are there any updates that render this unusable for the time being? It would be nice to have this able to run the kit bot from day one [two I suppose].

More on this when I am able to test, because I dont know if their protocol has changed with the season update, I will keep you/everybody informed.

As for using this in a competiton
NO
this is dis-allowed on a couple fronts, mainly the fact that there are no wireless communications allowed on the field other than the robots. The only way this would be allowed as an actual, legal control method, is if the application outputted necessary information via the connection port, and that data was then processed by a micro-controller of some sort with an Ethernet connection and then sent to the FMS. While that is kind of an annoying way to do it, I have been looking into the possibility/plausibility/practicality of the system.

[Patrick Chiang]

Wow. This is amazing stuff!

Even though it's probably not going to be allowed in the competitions, can you give us a brief (or long, whatever works) description of how you got this to work? Did you just capture packets and got the app to emulate sending them out? (Because last year, we tried to write our own customized dashboard using Java and we couldn't figure out how the communication works.) Thanks!

[twiggzee]

has there been any luck with an android version of this yet?

[byteit101]

Originally Posted by twiggzee

has there been any luck with an android version of this yet?

I know someone on our team is (was?) working on something (albeit rather slowly). He's been rather busy though, and if you want to finish it, you can have a rather simple joystick only driver (and do send the patch/pull request back to him). You'd only need to hook up the joysticks to the sending function (based off ZomB) Its on Bitbucket: https://bitbucket.org/Ancantus/android_zomb

[dexteryoki]

When i search for this app, iTunes says that they removed it from the store. Does anyone know why?

[mman1506]

I haven't been able to find this app either. Does anyone know what happened to it?

[gluxon]

From the YouTube video on this:

Originally Posted by cometsrobotics

Sorry, it's no longer available in the app store, due to the fee to stay in the apple developer program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69hdTUtH85k