Go to Post YES!!!!!! I read this and jumped! This is awesome and amazing! Thank you so much Dean Kamen and FIRST!!! YOU ARE AMAZING! - torihoelscher [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 28-12-2010, 13:40
Jeff Pahl's Avatar
Jeff Pahl Jeff Pahl is offline
likes to look at shiny things...
FRC #5148 (New Berlin Blitz)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Waukesha, WI
Posts: 344
Jeff Pahl has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Pahl has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Pahl has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Pahl has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Pahl has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Pahl has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Pahl has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Pahl has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Pahl has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Pahl has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Pahl has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2011 Kit LabVIEW Version?

I understand the difficulty in being able to use the current version with being able to get the libraries and such updated in time to get everything to the beta test teams, with NI's release schedule being tied to NI Week. However, I was really hoping we would stay only one version behind this year and move up to LV2009

I have the option at work of using 2009 or 2010, and was really hoping to not have to maintain an older version on my laptop in order to support my programmers.

Really looking forward to the day when we can use all the cool stuff in 2010, but would have been very happy to at least get the cool stuff in 2009 this year.
__________________
Team 5148 - 2014 Wisconsin Regional Rookie All-Stars!!

Mentor: 1379: 2004-2008 / 2530: 2008-2013 / 2861: 2009 / 5148: 2014-??
Lead Robot Inspector: 10,000 Lakes '09 - '11 / Lake Superior '11-'12 / Northern Lights '13, '15 - '16 / Championship '09 - '12, '14 - '15
Attending/Inspecting 2017: TBD, Wisconsin, STL Championship

"Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple" -Dr. Seuss
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 29-12-2010, 03:06
Nadav Zingerman Nadav Zingerman is offline
Registered User
FRC #2230
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Israel
Posts: 90
Nadav Zingerman is a splendid one to beholdNadav Zingerman is a splendid one to beholdNadav Zingerman is a splendid one to beholdNadav Zingerman is a splendid one to beholdNadav Zingerman is a splendid one to beholdNadav Zingerman is a splendid one to beholdNadav Zingerman is a splendid one to behold
Unhappy Re: 2011 Kit LabVIEW Version?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Pahl View Post
Really looking forward to the day when we can use all the cool stuff in 2010, but would have been very happy to at least get the cool stuff in 2009 this year.
But by then we'll be stuck waiting for the cool stuff in the 20XX version...
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 29-12-2010, 10:51
RyanN's Avatar
RyanN RyanN is offline
RyanN
AKA: Ryan Nazaretian
FRC #4901 (Garnet Squadron)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 1,126
RyanN has a reputation beyond reputeRyanN has a reputation beyond reputeRyanN has a reputation beyond reputeRyanN has a reputation beyond reputeRyanN has a reputation beyond reputeRyanN has a reputation beyond reputeRyanN has a reputation beyond reputeRyanN has a reputation beyond reputeRyanN has a reputation beyond reputeRyanN has a reputation beyond reputeRyanN has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2011 Kit LabVIEW Version?

While I would love to have LabVIEW 2010... I don't think it's ready for us. I've been working on robotics applications all semester at college using LabVIEW 2010. I can't tell you how many times it has just crashed. NI has acknowledged some of the issues, but has not issued a fix.

One of the crashes is from using the cleanup tool. I've also had some random crashes while just using the program and also opening saved projects.

Now, I have not really used 8.6 that much, but I would wait for NI to fix some of the bugs first before giving it to a large mass of students to use.

I could see a lot of teams being very mad at competition when their Classmate just crashes when getting ready to run.

This is just my experience though. YMMV
__________________
Garnet Squadron
FRC 4901
Controls Mentor
@rnazaretian

Previous mentor and student from Team Fusion, FRC 364
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 29-12-2010, 12:43
Greg McKaskle Greg McKaskle is offline
Registered User
FRC #2468 (Team NI & Appreciate)
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 4,748
Greg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond reputeGreg McKaskle has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2011 Kit LabVIEW Version?

The LabVIEW product family is constantly having features added, bugs fixed, and new hardware support added. Each new version is evaluated for use in FRC, and there is no rule as to how old or new the version needs to be. Instead, the decision is based on stability, performance, and hardware support.

At the moment, 8.6 is still considered the best choice.

Greg McKaskle
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-12-2010, 19:26
RoboMaster's Avatar
RoboMaster RoboMaster is offline
Alum, former programmer&co-captain
FRC #2472 (The Centurions)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Minnesota, Twin Cities
Posts: 268
RoboMaster has a brilliant futureRoboMaster has a brilliant futureRoboMaster has a brilliant futureRoboMaster has a brilliant futureRoboMaster has a brilliant futureRoboMaster has a brilliant futureRoboMaster has a brilliant futureRoboMaster has a brilliant futureRoboMaster has a brilliant futureRoboMaster has a brilliant futureRoboMaster has a brilliant future
Re: 2011 Kit LabVIEW Version?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg McKaskle View Post
The LabVIEW product family is constantly having features added, bugs fixed, and new hardware support added. Each new version is evaluated for use in FRC, and there is no rule as to how old or new the version needs to be. Instead, the decision is based on stability, performance, and hardware support.

At the moment, 8.6 is still considered the best choice.

Greg McKaskle
Thank you, that's good to know. I have also heard (as people might have noticed) that FIRST tries to be about one version behind the most current one.
__________________
My engineering blog: noeticbrainwaves.blogspot.com

I'm not slacking, my code's compiling
...and I'm using LabVIEW
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-12-2010, 23:10
iblis432 iblis432 is offline
Co Captain/Chief Programmer
AKA: Bobby
FRC #2106 (Junkyard Dogs)
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 146
iblis432 is a splendid one to beholdiblis432 is a splendid one to beholdiblis432 is a splendid one to beholdiblis432 is a splendid one to beholdiblis432 is a splendid one to beholdiblis432 is a splendid one to beholdiblis432 is a splendid one to behold
Re: 2011 Kit LabVIEW Version?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RoboMaster View Post
Thank you, that's good to know. I have also heard (as people might have noticed) that FIRST tries to be about one version behind the most current one.
Wouldn't know anything about it, but in my opinion, that's actually a good idea. It not only ensures for a more stable building environment, but also for a cheaper kit of parts I would imagine. And I'm ALWAYS for a cheaper kit of parts. Although 2009 would have been nice. It's a bit of a pain to have to have 2009 and 8.5 loaded because of FTC and FRC.
__________________
"Don't worry, programming can fix it"
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 31-12-2010, 13:03
Big Kid's Avatar
Big Kid Big Kid is offline
The Coach
AKA: Nick Acosta
FRC #0816 (WesTech Anomaly)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Westampton, NJ
Posts: 124
Big Kid is a jewel in the roughBig Kid is a jewel in the roughBig Kid is a jewel in the rough
Send a message via AIM to Big Kid
Re: 2011 Kit LabVIEW Version?

Regarding the internal Robotics Library in the 2011 LV Kit, any of the beta testers know if we are getting a simpler way to program using the Jaguar's CAN functionality.
__________________
Team 816
Student (2007-2011)
Mentor/Drive Coach (2013-)

Team 2495
Mentor (2016-)

Graduate Mech. Engineer at Lehigh University
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 31-12-2010, 22:39
Bot190's Avatar
Bot190 Bot190 is offline
Registered User
FRC #0166 (ChopShop)
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Merrimack NH
Posts: 105
Bot190 will become famous soon enough
Re: 2011 Kit LabVIEW Version?

The code itself will be basically the same, but the library is now included in WPILib so you don't need to do anything special to use it over a victor, or normal jaguar control
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Version of Labview? Darthturtle808 NI LabVIEW 3 31-01-2010 21:53
C and LabView version control with Git Nibbles NI LabVIEW 31 17-01-2010 19:22
Ni Labview Version Gandramu NI LabVIEW 1 30-09-2009 16:40
Problems running Default LabView Code Version 3.0 seg9585 Programming 6 01-02-2009 17:23
Kit of parts - Excel version with weight? msbrockman Kit & Additional Hardware 2 16-01-2007 09:29


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:19.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi