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I do not get why you guys are wasting time and energy trying to figure this out. even if you Figure it out, you would never know till kickoff! (and just to put this outthere, i agree with the train theory)
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

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Logo Motion.

(Name inspired by this post.) Even if it is wrong, I am so singing this all season. Come on baby, do the logo motion. It rocks!
Wouldn't it be great if the game name was "revealed" by a typo?

Logo Motion: you have to get objects in goals that are somehow related to a moving FIRST logo. Maybe lights go on and off, or goals open and close. Or maybe the goals - shaped like circle, square and triangle - move around.

Edit: I think the train angle is the ultimate red herring.
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

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Wouldn't it be great if the game name was "revealed" by a typo?

Logo Motion: you have to get objects in goals that are somehow related to a moving FIRST logo. Maybe lights go on and off, or goals open and close. Or maybe the goals - shaped like circle, square and triangle - move around.
What about this: 3 symbols, 3 teams on each alliance! What if each team in an alliance was given a certain symbol, and at the end of the match they had to line up to make the FIRST symbol!!!
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

More beating around the bush. my advive, sit tight and wait for kickoff,
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More beating around the bush. my advive, sit tight and wait for kickoff,
We know this i just wild guessing, but it helps us with the wait!
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

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I wonder if it could be...

Nah, that would just be way too...

Never mind.






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This is the only FIRST game i could find with the logo used. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvOI3WmYPas

There could be elements used form this game used, that would very interesting to see robots coming off of a spring loaded platform on to the field. Different playing field surfaces mentioned in Hint 1 Thread would be fun and a test to all teams.

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There could be elements used form, that would very interesting to see robots coming off of a spring loaded platform on to the field.
Or spring-loaded walls on the sides that you could use to launch yourself!
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

Going back on the idea that the three shapes represent the three game peices.

If anyone remembers, back in I think June ( Bill Posted that the GDC wanted students, Alumnist, Mentors etc. to e-mail them about what they wanted to see in next years game. I sent them an e-mail and said how the king of the hill part of Stack Attack would be a good element to return. I'm hoping that based of of this theory, Stack Attack would return in some way or form.

Here's my e-mail just in case any of what I asked for makes it in

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My name is Dave Givens, I am a programmer on 1071, and 2010 was my Rookie Year.

For next years game, I was hoping especially as a new person, to bring back an older game, with a new twist, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of FRC. This would allow the new guys like me to see some of these classics I hear my older mentors talk about.

Some specific games I would like to see return, or see elements from these games return

Maize Craze - My little joke is to support Maize Craze 2011 whenever I walk into the shop. On a sirius note as simple as this game is, it is the original game, and I think some tribute either on the 20th or 25th anniversary should be given to.

Stack Attack - There was just something about this game I really liked. I'm pretty sure it was the sorta King of the Hill aspect of the game that made it seem interesting to me. If somehow next years game could include King of the Hill, whether specifically as a flashback to Stack Attack or not, would be interesting. Plus it would keep up the high and changing strategy that Breakaway had.

Other - As I mentioned before, I like the games that are more high paced and have more strategy like sports (no matter if they are sports based or not). Its because of that reason I Prefer games like Breakaway and Overdrive over games such as Rack n Roll and Triple Play (even though our Teams first Regional win was on that game)

In closing I want to thank everyone on the GDC for putting together a spectacular game that made my Rookie Year enjoyable. This game really got me involved with First, and I can guarantee you I don't see myself going anywhere anytime soon.

Thank you for taking the time to listen to my ideas,

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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

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Wouldn't it be great if the game name was "revealed" by a typo?

Logo Motion: you have to get objects in goals that are somehow related to a moving FIRST logo. Maybe lights go on and off, or goals open and close. Or maybe the goals - shaped like circle, square and triangle - move around.

Edit: I think the train angle is completely a red herring.
Thats not a bad idea. Maybe there are lights above the goals like in 2007 that go off and on and each team has 3 goals: 1 for scoring triangle game pieces, 1 for circle game pieces, and 1 for square game pieces. But you can only score points when the logo above the goal is lit up(of course in autonomous all the goals would be lit up). Building a robot to score 3 different game pieces in a match, wouldnt that be a treat to build.

To build off this idea. Maybe it would be split into time slots within the match more like 2006, where triangles can get scored during the first period, then the circles, then the squares, then all 3. IF you did end up doing that, though, you would have to raise the points up more and more for the harder objects to score. Like circles would be worth 1pt, then squares worth 2pts and triangles worth 3pts, etc...
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

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Or spring-loaded walls on the sides that you could use to launch yourself!
Like turbo boosting over the alliance, or maybe a game piece.
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More beating around the bush. my advive, sit tight and wait for kickoff,
A lot of us enjoy the hints and the guessing part of them. We enjoy that much like a puzzle. It doesn't matter if we are right, wrong, close, or totally off. For us, it is fun and provides an opportunity to think and dream together.

There's nothing wrong with that. For those who do not enjoy it, don't read the threads but don't spoil the fun for the rest of us.

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Going back on the idea that the three shapes represent the three game peices.

If anyone remembers, back in I think June ( Bill Posted that the GDC wanted members to e-mail them about what they wanted to see in next years game. I sent them an e-mail and said how the king of the hill part of Stack Attack would be a good element to return. I'm hoping that based of of this theory, Stack Attack would return in some way or form.

Here's my e-mail just in case any of what I asked for makes it in

Well, if that's true, then we know what we're looking for! Dave just said what he'd like to see, and what elements of gameplay that he wanted! He also told us that he was trying to "renovate" a previous game. So, with that in mind, let's look at all previous games, especially the ones he mentioned, and see how or if they tie into the FIRST logo, and the first hint with the locomotion theory.
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

one idea i concluded form this was that the current FIRST logo (hint picture) is simply an updated rendition of the original FIRST logo from 1992 and the late '90's-'04. seems to me like this clue if pointing to a game that is an updated rendition of a previous FIRST game.
the other idea is that from here (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...aspx?id=18620#) you can see that every game that featured the FIRST logo on the game image had either FIRST or FRC under the logo except...1992.

on another note from the first clue... the word locomotion was used. there were really only 2 games that have given a type of "crazy" motion those being 1992 and 2009 (please no more regolith...).

topped with the tennis ball red herring, my money is on a 1992 remake game.
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

Maybe the cone could actually be the field element. We could have a very low sloping cone in the center of the field. Maybe the dimensions would be 20' diameter with a 1' height. The sphere is a 4" tennis ball and the cylinder is the goal(s).
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

The first thing I noticed about this logo is that it does not have a trademark or a copyright symbol like every other instance of the logo, but is otherwise identical to the official one.

Why would they pull the TM off this image?
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