2011 FRC Game Hint #2

[ThirteenOfTwo]

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256

Yes, but then you'd be stuck if you were in an alliance where you all specialized in the same thing. I don't think FIRST would want that.

So you mean like last year, when alliances were stuck if they had three frontfield bots?

Anyways, just like last year, you'd be operating at 1/3 efficiency. And it wouldn't happen in elimination if teams chose wisely. Probably the tasks would be similar enough that robots could reasonably do all three, but in order to excel at one they'd have to sacrifice efficiency on the other two.

[iblis432]

What if we're thinking to broad? what if its a hint to a piece in the Kit of Parts? I feel like they did that in a year past, can't remember though.

Anyway, what type of new part could be related to either of the hints?

Originally Posted by ThirteenOfTwo

So you mean like last year, when alliances were stuck if they had three frontfield bots?

Anyways, just like last year, you'd be operating at 1/3 efficiency. And it wouldn't happen in elimination if teams chose wisely. Probably the tasks would be similar enough that robots could reasonably do all three, but in order to excel at one they'd have to sacrifice efficiency on the other two.

But you forget. If you were tethered to a spot where you couldn't do anything, you'd be hopeless. If you were placed in a field last year that you didn't make your robot for, you could still succeed because you could push/kick the ball from wherever. Plus, you could travel over or through the tunnel to get to the side you needed. And if all else failed, you could ask your alliance members to let you go in the zone you wanted, unlike the "random" choosing of being tethered.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by iblis432

What if we're thinking to broad? what if its a hint to a piece in the Kit of Parts? I feel like they did that in a year past, can't remember though.

2008, Game Hint 1 was an IR sensor sent to the teams. 2006, the game hint's original shape was sort of roundish like a ball.

In other years, it's been either vague or roundabout if it hit the KOP at all.

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256

Now that we are 99% sue that it involves trains, we need to either find out what the trains can/will do, and if there are actual trains, or what the second hint means!

It won't involve trains.

[ThirteenOfTwo]

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256

But you forget. If you were tethered to a spot where you couldn't do anything, you'd be hopeless. If you were placed in a field last year that you didn't make your robot for, you could still succeed because you could push/kick the ball from wherever. Plus, you could travel over or through the tunnel to get to the side you needed. And if all else failed, you could ask your alliance members to let you go in the zone you wanted, unlike the "random" choosing of being tethered.

I never said teams would be randomly assigned to a tether point, or that any part of the game field would be randomized. Remember, the GDC tries to encourage specialized designs that work together.

Originally Posted by IndySam

It won't involve trains.

I don't necessarily mean there will be actual trains, but an aspect related to them.

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256

Now that we are 99% sue that it involves trains, we need to either find out what the trains can/will do, and if there are actual trains, or what the second hint means!

Locomotion was Little Eva's greatest hit, the logo is the 20th anniversary logo. Greatest hits from 20 years of FRC in one game!

Originally Posted by ThirteenOfTwo

I never said teams would be randomly assigned to a tether point, or that any part of the game field would be randomized. Remember, the GDC tries to encourage specialized designs that work together.

Then if you badly needed to be tethered to a spot you tell your team, and if they can work better than you in that position, then try your best somewhere else, and hope for the best. That's why you always need a backup plan. If you can't play on the spot you do best at, be sure you can at least compete somewhere else at least somewhat well.

[iblis432]

Originally Posted by BrendanB

Locomotion was Little Eva's greatest hit, the logo is the 20th anniversary logo. Greatest hits from 20 years of FRC in one game!

Already covered earlier in the thread... multiple times. Besides, that really tells nothing of the game, only explains what has already be said, that it celebrates 20 years of FRC

Originally Posted by iblis432

Already covered earlier in the thread... multiple times. Besides, that really tells nothing of the game, only explains what has already be said, that it celebrates 20 years of FRC

Though this has been mentioned countless times before,
It could mean that this game takes the best of the last 20 year's games, and puts them into one super-game.

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by iblis432

Already covered earlier in the thread... multiple times. Besides, that really tells nothing of the game, only explains what has already be said, that it celebrates 20 years of FRC

I know, I have read through every post in this thread and the 1st one. That is why I am certain that it has anything to do with locomotives after an afternoon of thought. You have to look at what I was replying too.

[Karibou]

Originally Posted by TheoBlacksmith

2. the FRC logo simply tells us that this is going to be a FRC competiiton
.

I just want to clarify, since I'm sure that someone else will make the same mistake somewhere along the line.

The triangle, circle, and square are not the FRC logo. Those shapes are also used in the FIRST, FLL, and FTC logos. What differentiates the different images is the text that appears underneath the shapes - which was left out of the hint.

That being said, we don't know exactly which logo this image is supposed to imply. It could mean that we will be utilizing elements from FLL and FTC, for all we know.

[Robert Cawthon]

Originally Posted by IndySam

It won't involve trains.

I agree. I think. Maybe.

Originally Posted by Karibou

I just want to clarify, since I'm sure that someone else will make the same mistake somewhere along the line.

The triangle, circle, and square are not the FRC logo. Those shapes are also used in the FIRST, FLL, and FTC logos. What differentiates the different images is the text that appears underneath the shapes - which was left out of the hint.

That being said, we don't know exactly which logo this image is supposed to imply. It could mean that we will be utilizing elements from FLL and FTC, for all we know.

That's new! It could be a FRC'd version of a previous FLL or FTC competition!