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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

I like the Idea of combining FTC and FLL, however, some schools have FRC teams and FTC teams and some students have participated in FLL too. For those people that haven't, it would possibly be an unfair advantage.

At our meeting today, our team saw the hint and one of our advisers immediately thought of linking together (like previously mentioned several times), but he thought it could be for bonus points at the very end of the match. It may be too easy though.

But, don't count on anything I say to be remotely close to reality.
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

Some people mentioned how FIRST was trying to hide the origins of the game hints by editing them slightly

Game hint #1: The GDC did do a good job of hiding the true origins of the pic. It took the FRC community ~ 2 hours to figure it out. Which is pretty impressive considering the technical know how and obsessiveness of some (most... ok all) of the posters on Chief Delphi.

Game hint #2: On the other hand, I really hope no one was confused about this hint. It is the FIRST logo for crying out loud, so what if they deleted the words. The GDC should have had no dreams about disguising this hint. This is a FIRST game hint for a FIRST event that used the FIRST symbol. I think they should have thought that we would make the connection to FIRST.
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

Vision targets with the FIRST logo. Maybe only the logo? We'll see in T-4 days.
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

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http://usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/....aspx?id=18713

A low resolution picture of the FIRST logo.
There was a post on the game hint 1 thread about the dimensions of the picture (the Comic Sans post )

Hmmmm
what if the game involes conecting and transporting all the first pices like making your own train
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Vision targets with the FIRST logo. Maybe only the logo? We'll see in T-4 days.
We've never used vision tracking before! If you can vision track this year, we will defenatly try!
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what if the game involes conecting and transporting all the first pices like making your own train
I just had the worst thought ever. I imagined the field with a bunch of blocks, each with part of the logo on it, and you had to arrange them by pushing/pulling the blocks so that you create the FIRST logo. Similar to a puzzle in the forrest temple in the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (best game ever!!)
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We've never used vision tracking before! If you can vision track this year, we will defenatly try!
You will be surprised how much work WPI did for the programmers. If you look through the library, it has everything from edge detection to object recognition. You just have to call the functions
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I just had the worst thought ever. I imagined the field with a bunch of blocks, each with part of the logo on it, and you had to arrange them by pushing/pulling the blocks so that you create the FIRST logo. Similar to a puzzle in the forrest temple in the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (best game ever!!)
that would be interesting and hard
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We've never used vision tracking before! If you can vision track this year, we will defenatly try!
Last year we had the ability to track and aim at the target, it was a slightly edited version of the one seen in the default LABview template, I don't think we ever used it though. During Lunacy, we did eventually get working tracking of the trailers, but we scrapped the camera in the final robot design.
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

My thoughts on the hint are:
--all three shapes will be used
or
--there will be connecting trains like the shapes overlap each other.
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

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Vision targets with the FIRST logo. Maybe only the logo? We'll see in T-4 days.
You be right, the same thing was done in 2007 or Rack n Roll. One of the
diamonds plat with a 5 on was the hint.
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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

1) Little Eva did Locomotion.
2) OK, so the logo looks like a train.

Possible hint #3?
And, the picture that Dave Lavery was in was taken at the "Boxcar Willie Memorial Overpass" on I35. OK, I think the operative part of this is the "Overpass". When coupled with the boxcar aspect, it sounds like trains of linked things and we have to go over an overpass.

As another thought, Boxcar Willie died in 1999. Maybe some aspect of the 1999 game ("Double Trouble?") coming back? In that game, we had to lift the game pieces up (maybe to an overpass?) and we got more points the higher they got. Maybe we have to distinguish different shaped game pieces and lift them to different levels to get different points?

Just more grist for the mill...

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Re: 2011 FRC Game Hint #2

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I was think the same thing earlier, but of a 3D logo. Stacking blocks to make the logo.
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And, the picture that Dave Lavery was in was taken at the "Boxcar Willie Memorial Overpass" on I35.
I hate to ruin the fun, but Dave has had that picture as his WAI for years. It means nothing in regards to the hints and game.
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My thoughts on the hint are:
--all three shapes will be used
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--there will be connecting trains like the shapes overlap each other.
what if when you connect the tran pices you have to do it in order so the first alliance to have three logos wins
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