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Re: 2011 Encrypted manuals are out.

Now lets say some one does break the 128bit encryption before kickoff... What happens?
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Re: 2011 Encrypted manuals are out.

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Now lets say some one does break the 128bit encryption before kickoff... What happens?
They read it early?
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They read it early?
I meant more like are they disqualified or some other grave consequences.
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Now lets say some one does break the 128bit encryption before kickoff... What happens?
If they read it they loose all respect that the FIRST community had for them but if they jsut do it for fun they get a nice pat on the back
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I meant more like are they disqualified or some other grave consequences.
There are no rules about it. I assume FIRST assumes that no one would attempt it, and that it's not possible to crack in time.
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Now lets say some one does break the 128bit encryption before kickoff... What happens?
They get to have an additional 2-3 days of build season.

Probably not really useful.


Edit: Oh, and FIRST might stop putting these out early so some of us don't have to /. their servers.
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Re: 2011 Encrypted manuals are out.

Frankly I'm not that concerned about it. The team(s) that knew what the 2009 game object early didn't do any better because they had an extra few weeks knowing what they needed to manipulate.
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Re: 2011 Encrypted manuals are out.

Well, just like anything in life, there will be those people that cheat the system, however unhelpful it is. The lengthened build season does not seem to be worth the loss of respect the FIRST community has for the team.
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Now lets say some one does break the 128bit encryption before kickoff... What happens?
They consume 30 gigawats of power!

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Re: 2011 Encrypted manuals are out.

I believe that is part of the reason they wait until a few days before kickoff.
Lessens the likelihood of someone gathering the computing power to brute force it.
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They consume 30 gigawats of power!
That is if they take one year to do it. If they want to get it done before kickoff, they would need 4074 gigawats of power (assuming they get started right away).

EDIT: In the US, that would be $24.4 Billion worth of electricity.
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Re: 2011 Encrypted manuals are out.

Psh, I give up after trying for an hour...
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Let's not.

Seriously, talk about cracking a password should not be welcome in this community.
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