2011 FRC Game Hint #2

[TD912]

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday

That actually might be significant, considering that it means that it was not a simple crop operation.

Maybe this year will have something to do with sorting colors.

http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles..._MAR262010.pdf

There's official colors in this PDF. A lot of times programs inadvertently change the colors of an image slightly on computers where the screen colors are not properly calibrated for graphic design use. Plus there's this whole thing on converting RGB screen colors to CMYK printer colors.

[Team#2057-Vegas]

someone said the interlocking pieces on this one.. and on the last clue the collumn was mentioned.. what if we have pieces of a column of some type we have to build.. and when its complete we have to hang on it for extra points.. more autonomous things too like line following to be able to get some of the pieces

[demosthenes2k8]

Building a column would be interesting, but difficult, depending on how many and what kind of pieces it would be broken into. Hanging on it would be too dangerous, though. Maybe something else...since the Little Eva picture was reversed, assembling some mirrors to make light paths would be a fun challenge.

[karomata]

our drivers may have to put up with vision-disorienting mirrors on the field.

[Timmur]

could it possibly be based on her first ever song and they are using their logo to point it out? it is a stretch but anything goes right? We could also go with the linked idea that you are linked with one other bot and you are trying to hook up with as many of your alliance as you can. the only problem is, is that gracious professionalism? I read most posts but if an idea was already stated out of this, I'm sorry. there are just too many posts

[EricH]

Originally Posted by pwortman

I had an idea that maybe more was removed from the originals for the hints, so i found the originals and placed them side by side and played "find the differences" unfortunately, I couldn't see anything out of the ordinary :/

Start by finding the album cover with the title on it. Then we'll talk difference finding. (Oh, and quick hint: email might be better off not posted publicly. PMs and forum email work pretty well, if enabled.)

[beastoftheeast]

you guys, i figured it out, it's so OBVI! the playing field is going to look exactly like the logo, but actually in 3dimentions, and it will be a race track to see who can complete 3 laps first, for the triangle you may go straight up, up the sides, or a loop in the center and return to the circle, finally, for the extra points, since the album cover is from the past, there will be a wormhole in the middle of the circle that if players reach it first (because everyone knows, only 1 thing may travel through a wormhole before it closes) they will be taken back in time 10seconds, to help complete the last lap.


what do you guys think? fool-proof right?

[zfadness]

[quote]

Originally Posted by Joe G.

I'm going to guess it's something related to the Archimedes-inspired origins of the FIRST logo that they talked about at championships last year.

I believe this has a big part to do with it. It is the type of vague thing they would go for. The greek pillar and historical background of the logo. I also believe the loco-motion idea has merit. Maybe a type of claw to get game pieces out of an elevated bin, then take it (possibily in in some kind of trainlike, cargo carrying way) to something something simialar to archimedes screw to put it in opponent's bin. Least amount of pieces wins.

[Christopher149]

Here is the album cover:


Something interesting is that while searching, there are many other pictures of her with various columns.

[Grim Tuesday]

As Yoda would say:

A dead horse, you are beating.

[Bjenks548]

If i combine the two hints with how Interpret them I get this
-Locomotion (trains)
-The archenemies balance principle
I think here is your end game, all the way back from I think 2002, balance a towed something on a bridge. Although if i had to guess FIRST will make it much harder to balance the bridge or whatever it is then back in 2002.

[XXShadowXX]

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday

A dead horse, you are beating.

Dude this is the game hint we aren't beating a dead horse. We are beating the Elmer's glue bottle.

to avoid a double post, my thoughts:

1) The first hint a reflection of the album cover in question.. Or a different picture. What ever the posing suggests a reflection.

2) Low res picture.

Inference: 1 & 2 are pictures, I would expect a camera to be used in some way because of this. The reflection suggests that we may have to work with some sort of distortion to make that robot function correctly, I.E.: visible light either to the camera or person. The Low res picture strengths this argument in my opinion because it tells us we are dealing with limited data. Looks like in some way we will be signal processing IMO. That is as far as I'll venture a guess.

Edit 1:
Despite technical challenges I still maintain this game will take place either on or below water.

[T-Whit]

I'm starting to think that maybe we are looking too deep. This is our teams first year and I don't have any experience with game hints but I think I have a point. I like the idea of old games brought back. Think about it the picture of Lil Eva is old and the FIRST logo looks like it's an older picture as well. Just a thought. Also, advice for my team would be nice

[Bill_B]

Originally Posted by Bjenks548

If i combine the two hints with how Interpret them I get this
-Locomotion (trains)
-The archenemies balance principle
I think here is your end game, all the way back from I think 2002, balance a towed something on a bridge. Although if i had to guess FIRST will make it much harder to balance the bridge or whatever it is then back in 2002.

I think you meant to say "Archimedes" and the spell checker offered a different word. Archenemies would be something like Batman and the Joker. I'm not aware of a balance principle, unless it has something to do with the Flying Wallendas or maybe Circ du Soliel. Some sort of balance requirement would indeed be a challenge for FRC robotics. We humans have quite some difficulties with it ourselves.

[Team#2057-Vegas]

Originally Posted by Bill_B

I think you meant to say "Archimedes" and the spell checker offered a different word. Archenemies would be something like Batman and the Joker. I'm not aware of a balance principle, unless it has something to do with the Flying Wallendas or maybe Circ du Soliel. Some sort of balance requirement would indeed be a challenge for FRC robotics. We humans have quite some difficulties with it ourselves.

Team 2057 claims putting batman ears on our bot if this is the case