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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Important Kickoff Information and Reminders/KOP Dimensions

Has anyone else looked at the Software Updates yet?

Did you happen to notice that although the FIRST updates page indicates that the LabView Update is "Only for teams using LabVIEW as their programming language"... the actual National Instruments page where you download the file from indicates "Because this software also contains the update to the FPGA images, teams using Java and C/C++ will also need to install it."

Confused... me too.

I guess we will just install it anyway just to be safe...
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Important Kickoff Information and Reminders/KOP Dimensions

The LabVIEW update doesn't appear to be necessary if you aren't using it, but it was wrapped that way the past couple of seasons.
The Installation Notes direct us to load all three in a particular order.

The most useful thing for us to do would be a test installation of Java/C++ leaving out the LabVIEW to see if the correct image showed up. Then report back to the rest of us.

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There are 3 mandatory updates for the NI FIRST Robotics Software 2011 and they should be installed in the following order:
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  2. Utilities Update
  3. Driver Station Update
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"This software update is meant to be installed ONLY after installing LabVIEW FRC from the DVD that comes with the 2011 Controls Kit or on the Classmate computer that comes with the kit."
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Important Kickoff Information and Reminders/KOP Dimensions

You can try testing it now, but it's all password protected. It's the same password as the manuals.

Our team is the other way, using LabVIEW but not C or Java. But we're installing everything anyway, as it's easier to try it out later (say next fall) without having to find the discs and install it all (and find all those post-kickoff updates too!)
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Important Kickoff Information and Reminders/KOP Dimensions

How will teams install the new software on the Classmate? The new Driver Station software requires the LabVIEW updates, which in turn requires the new LabVIEW software. The Classmate doesn't have an optical drive.

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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Important Kickoff Information and Reminders/KOP Dimensions

New thumbdrive, maybe? That's what we got for the first year, a thumbdrive with (I believe; knock on wood never had to do anything with it) an image of the harddrive.
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Important Kickoff Information and Reminders/KOP Dimensions

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Has anyone else looked at the Software Updates yet?

Did you happen to notice that although the FIRST updates page indicates that the LabView Update is "Only for teams using LabVIEW as their programming language"... the actual National Instruments page where you download the file from indicates "Because this software also contains the update to the FPGA images, teams using Java and C/C++ will also need to install it."

Confused... me too.

I guess we will just install it anyway just to be safe...
The last few years, C/C++ and Java teams have needed to install LabVIEW updates in order to get the new image, which was the same for all languages. This year, there are separate cRio images for each language (cleaning it up a good bit), so C/C++ and Java teams shouldn't need this update. The note on the NI website is probably sticking around from previous years.
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