Mini Bots

[EricH]

Originally Posted by zack0617

they just have to trigger the sensor, they dont have to stay there

Rule please.


If you can't back it up with a rule, please don't say it.

[3015 Sub Upper]

But there is no rule saying u cant do that so?????

[alectronic]

Section 1.5 Logomotion Summary

TRIGGERED – the act of pushing the bottom disk of the TARGET so that the sensors are tripped and a signal is sent to the Field Management System (FMS). When a TARGET is TRIGGERED, the MINIBOT RACE on that TOWER is complete.

This would imply that once it is triggered, that tower is done, and thus the mini-bot could do whatever, go back down, stay up, whatever.

But Eric is right, this is not for sure, and will likely go through the Q&A.

[EricH]

There is no rule either way, which is why I said we don't know.

If someone does know one way or another, and can back it up with a rule, then that would be greatly appreciated. However, in the numerous times it's been asked today, nobody's come up with a rule going either way.

[Duke461]

I would say, in my opinion, all it has to do is hit the sensor.
<G02> states
"If a minibot triggers the target within the set time period, the target light will illuminate to indicate in which place the minibot finished."
So i would say this is clearly saying it merely has to trigger the target which illuminates the light, which in turn signifies you scored.

Someone please put this in Q&A

[EricH]

I guess the real question is, does the target have to stay triggered; i.e., will the 1st place be lost if the minibot slides down after triggering the target.

No answer yet from manual on that.

[Duke461]

Originally Posted by EricH

I guess the real question is, does the target have to stay triggered; i.e., will the 1st place be lost if the minibot slides down after triggering the target.

No answer yet from manual on that.

well, as i said above, it only has to trigger it, so that automatically is saying it wouldnt have to stay triggered. also i dont think the GDC would miss something that important

[Andy A.]

I asked two separate GDC members at Manchester this very question. They indicated that there was no need for the mini-bots to stay in contact with the plate once the switch was closed. The field only looked for the switch states to change, and immediately 'scores' the mini-bot accordingly.

An official statement and rule update will be forthcoming, I'm sure, but for now I am operating under the assumption that the minibot does not need to remain in contact or supporting the plate.

[EricH]

OK, that's more what I was looking for. It wasn't clear from the Manual that a robot only had to trip the sensor and could then do what it liked, instead of trip the sensor, back down, and then realize that it was now in 3rd place because somebody got up while it was down a bit.

[1631JD]

If we build mutiple minbots for the purpose of lending them out will they be considered towards the weight requirements of our robot?

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by 1631JD

If we build mutiple minbots for the purpose of lending them out will they be considered towards the weight requirements of our robot?

The HOSTBOT (the robot we build every year) has to reach the FRC weight and size requirements (120 lbs sans battery and bumpers).

The MINIBOT/CLIENTBOT does not count towards the weight of the FRC robot, and although I never saw it specified, follows FTC weight and size rules.

I do believe this could also mean that your minibot does not have to be in the box by February 22, nor does it count to your travel weight.

[Gundamx92000]

Just under the Minibot section of the rulebook:

<R91> The MINIBOT may not exceed a 12" x12" X 12" volume and weight no more than 15 lbs

[Nick Rixford]

The amount of Newtons needed to set off the light is 2-4, it says it in the manual, i just don't have it on me right now.

[PayneTrain]

I know I don't have very many posts, but I think it wouldn't be a terrible idea to post and sticky a "What We Don't Know About Logomotion" thread to prevent 3 different threads asking for peg height, certain minibot parameters, and the like.

[wirsingrl]

Can one hostbot deploy more than 1 minibot?