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Re: Summary of Ranking System

Does anyone know what the significance of the Coopertition points are?

Is it just to determine who wins the Coopertition award? (Or, more accurately, the "most loaned minibot" award, since there is no other source of Coopertition points this year?)

Personally, I don't like this ranking system. Yes it's simple, but causes a lot of stress. At most regionals two losses means you're out of the top eight.
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Re: Summary of Ranking System

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Does anyone know what the significance of the Coopertition points are?
Absolutely nothing (I checked and rechecked the rules), and it makes me very happy.
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Re: Summary of Ranking System

For all Technical Purposes:
From 5.3.7
"The FMS will use the following seeding method:
• TEAMS will be broken into tiers based on their qualification score. A tier is made up of all TEAMS with the same qualification score. Tiers will be seeded in decreasing order by qualification score.
• Within each tier, TEAMS will be seeded in decreasing order by their ranking score.
• If any TEAMS within a tier have the same ranking score, they will then be seeded in decreasing order by their highest match score.
• If any TEAMS within a tier have the same ranking score and the same highest match score, then they will be seeded based on a random sorting by the FMS."
Co-opertition score effects your rank in no way, it appears just to be a score judges will like to look at
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Re: Summary of Ranking System

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Personally, I don't like this ranking system. Yes it's simple, but causes a lot of stress. At most regionals two losses means you're out of the top eight.
I agree. The last couple years, our team has been seeded in the top 15. With this new system, two bad rounds or a bad inspection could easily put us out of the running.
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I agree. The last couple years, our team has been seeded in the top 15. With this new system, two bad rounds or a bad inspection could easily put us out of the running.
Last year was the only year in recent memory that did not use W-L-T as a primary ranking system.
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Re: Summary of Ranking System

I'm wondering if there is an opportunity for the two alliances to cooperate a bit to drive up their ranking score. Suppose each alliance agreed to throw 3 (or 4) game pieces directly into the other alliance's scoring area. These could be scored easily to drive up the ranking score and the rest of the match would proceed normally.
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Re: Summary of Ranking System

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I'm wondering if there is an opportunity for the two alliances to cooperate a bit to drive up their ranking score. Suppose each alliance agreed to throw 3 (or 4) game pieces directly into the other alliance's scoring area. These could be scored easily to drive up the ranking score and the rest of the match would proceed normally.
Facilitating scoring for your opponents is nothing new--1114 ruffled a few feathers (but totally did nothing wrong) in 2006 when they lit up their opponent's goal in a safely-put-away match--but Tom's hit on the best way to handle it this year. You can't directly score for your opponents without getting flagged five ways to Friday, but parking game pieces would allow you to tighten up a put-away match.

(Cue human players working on their arc throws to land directly on the grid...)
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