G02 clarification

[ATannahill]

I think this is a subject for the Q&A but I want to pass it by CD while the Q&A is closed.

G02 states

Originally Posted by Section 3 - The Game

<G02> The AUTONOMOUS PERIOD ends when the ARENA timer displays zero seconds. The MATCH ends if all TOWERS are TRIGGERED or when the ARENA timer displays zero seconds, whichever comes first.

Will the match end when all towers are triggered or disabled, or just triggered? i.e. If I accidentally let the minibot go early onto the pole, will that prevent the match from ending early?

[mcrawford]

It says nothing about disabling a tower so No. They all have to be TRIGGERED or the time runs out. Besides the towers could all be disabled as early as during autonomous is four teams were really stupid and wanted to get penalties.

[quinxorin]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

Will the match end when all towers are triggered or disabled, or just triggered? i.e. If I accidentally let the minibot go early onto the pole, will that prevent the match from ending early?

I would assume disabled would also count, logically, even though its not specified exactly. Of course, the GDC won't realize this if they don't hear about it, so you'd better ask them.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by mcrawford

It says nothing about disabling a tower so No. They all have to be TRIGGERED or the time runs out. Besides the towers could all be disabled as early as during autonomous is four teams were really stupid and wanted to get penalties.

Under G17, G20 and G22 (the rules that disable the tower) there are no penalties.

[1631JD]

It is a matter of seconds difference; however, I think that if a tower is disabled then all active towers triggered will stop the game.

[GBIT]

<G02> The AUTONOMOUS PERIOD ends when the ARENA timer displays zero seconds. The MATCH ends if all TOWERS are TRIGGERED or when the ARENA timer displays zero seconds, whichever comes first.

I have found in past years it really does come down to the wording. In this case ,though it is literally a matter of seconds, the match will end only if they are TRIGGERED or the timer runs to 0. The fact that it doesn't state the disabled state means it is not likely to be considered...

[Taylor]

So to make sure I've got my head wrapped around this rule:
Bluabots 1 & 2 and Redabot 1 has deployed their minibots, and have triggered.
Redabot 3 has a game piece and it will take them 4 seconds to score.
Redabot 2 is deploying its minibot, it takes 3.5 seconds to reach the trigger.
There are 5 seconds left in the match.

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Redabot 3 will not score, correct?

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by Taylor

So to make sure I've got my head wrapped around this rule:
Bluabots 1 & 2 and Redabot 1 has deployed their minibots, and have triggered.
Redabot 3 has a game piece and it will take them 4 seconds to score.
Redabot 2 is deploying its minibot, it takes 3.5 seconds to reach the trigger.
There are 5 seconds left in the match.

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Redabot 3 will not score, correct?

That is exactly how I read it.

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by Taylor

So to make sure I've got my head wrapped around this rule:
Bluabots 1 & 2 and Redabot 1 has deployed their minibots, and have triggered.
Redabot 3 has a game piece and it will take them 4 seconds to score.
Redabot 2 is deploying its minibot, it takes 3.5 seconds to reach the trigger.
There are 5 seconds left in the match.

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Redabot 3 will not score, correct?

If Redabot 3's last half second of scoring action requires powered full control of the robot, I do believe you are correct.

If the robot is in the process of doing something when the match ends, and if that something can continue on its own momentum with the game piece ending up on the peg with the robot no longer touching it a second or so later, the crowd will cheer and the piece will be scored.

[Jimmy Nichols]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

If Redabot 3's last half second of scoring action requires powered full control of the robot, I do believe you are correct.

If the robot is in the process of doing something when the match ends, and if that something can continue on its own momentum with the game piece ending up on the peg with the robot no longer touching it a second or so later, the crowd will cheer and the piece will be scored.

In 2007 the robot could not be touching the tube, so if the momentum carries it to the peg and the "gripper" has no contact then it could score.

This Game rule is a significant change from previous years. I would expect some more clarification on this one. Especially given that only 4 bots can deploy minibots, the other 2 should be trying to score tubes. A few seconds can win or lose a match.