Go to Post If they need a place where they can get a chance to learn interpersonal skills (like a team), it might just help them to become well-adjusted adults, as opposed to pathologically antisocial engineers (who got good grades). - Tristan Lall [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Technical > Technical Discussion
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 09-01-2011, 23:10
caincteam2777 caincteam2777 is offline
Registered User
FRC #2777
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: blackwell
Posts: 30
caincteam2777 has a spectacular aura aboutcaincteam2777 has a spectacular aura about
Telescoping System

I've been working on developing a telescoping system for my teams robot. I planned on using some t-slot aluminum (80/20?), does anyone have designs they wouldn't mind sharing or idea on how to develop one? I've searched around without much luck.

Also where is a good place to buy some T-slot tubing?
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 09-01-2011, 23:25
Matt H. Matt H. is offline
Long Distance Mentor
FRC #1726 (N.E.R.D.S.)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: May 2006
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
Posts: 238
Matt H. has a reputation beyond reputeMatt H. has a reputation beyond reputeMatt H. has a reputation beyond reputeMatt H. has a reputation beyond reputeMatt H. has a reputation beyond reputeMatt H. has a reputation beyond reputeMatt H. has a reputation beyond reputeMatt H. has a reputation beyond reputeMatt H. has a reputation beyond reputeMatt H. has a reputation beyond reputeMatt H. has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Telescoping System

Regarding the second part of your question: 80/20 inc. has a supplier look up:
http://www.8020.net/PostalLookup.asp
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 09-01-2011, 23:26
Grim Tuesday's Avatar
Grim Tuesday Grim Tuesday is offline
Registered User
AKA: Simon Bohn
FRC #0639 (Code Red)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: Baltimore MD (JHU)
Posts: 1,606
Grim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Telescoping System

In 2007, SPARX had a great telescoper.

We use McmasterCarr for our T-Slot needs.
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 09-01-2011, 23:28
artdutra04's Avatar
artdutra04 artdutra04 is offline
VEX Robotics Engineer
AKA: Arthur Dutra IV; NERD #18
FRC #0148 (Robowranglers)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Greenville, TX
Posts: 3,078
artdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Telescoping System

Quote:
Originally Posted by caincteam2777 View Post
I've been working on developing a telescoping system for my teams robot. I planned on using some t-slot aluminum (80/20?), does anyone have designs they wouldn't mind sharing or idea on how to develop one? I've searched around without much luck.

Also where is a good place to buy some T-slot tubing?
Our 2007 robot used a 2-stage (more like 1.5 stage) 80/20 telescoping elevator using the 80/20 linear glide pieces. Here's a link to all our photos from the 2007 season:

http://team228.org/media/pictures/2007

And a few photos of the system:


This photo shows the elevator when it was still powered by two Globe motors, but we later switched it out for a 3" CIM.





You can look on the 80/20 website to find distributors near you. The local distributors are usually very helpful and usually give a 10% discount to FIRST teams.
__________________
Art Dutra IV
Robotics Engineer, VEX Robotics, Inc., a subsidiary of Innovation First International (IFI)
Robowranglers Team 148 | GUS Robotics Team 228 (Alumni) | Rho Beta Epsilon (Alumni) | @arthurdutra

世上无难事,只怕有心人.
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 09-01-2011, 23:39
Grim Tuesday's Avatar
Grim Tuesday Grim Tuesday is offline
Registered User
AKA: Simon Bohn
FRC #0639 (Code Red)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: Baltimore MD (JHU)
Posts: 1,606
Grim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond reputeGrim Tuesday has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Telescoping System

Thanks a ton artdutra!

Can you explain how the "cart" rises up the "ladder"?

Is it pulleyed? Or is it propelled by that huge gear?

I also don't really get how the second stage of the arm rises (or is it technically the first stage?)

EDIT: With no height limit this year, what is the advantage of a dual stage arm over just one really tall but well supported single stage one.
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 09-01-2011, 23:45
caincteam2777 caincteam2777 is offline
Registered User
FRC #2777
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: blackwell
Posts: 30
caincteam2777 has a spectacular aura aboutcaincteam2777 has a spectacular aura about
Re: Telescoping System

artdutra: thats the approach i was going for, it was just how the slider worked and how i would use pulleys to make it slide up and down

the taller you make something the more top heavy it will become. think of it like a cheater bar. the longer you make something the easier it is to say move/turn it. so the taller you make the bot the easier it becomes for it to tip over
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-01-2011, 00:31
artdutra04's Avatar
artdutra04 artdutra04 is offline
VEX Robotics Engineer
AKA: Arthur Dutra IV; NERD #18
FRC #0148 (Robowranglers)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Greenville, TX
Posts: 3,078
artdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Telescoping System

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday View Post
Thanks a ton artdutra!

Can you explain how the "cart" rises up the "ladder"?

Is it pulleyed? Or is it propelled by that huge gear?

I also don't really get how the second stage of the arm rises (or is it technically the first stage?)

EDIT: With no height limit this year, what is the advantage of a dual stage arm over just one really tall but well supported single stage one.
Check out this white paper from Andy Baker (of AndyMark):

http://d1pytrrjwm20z9.cloudfront.net...atorDesign.pdf

It explains more about various mechanism types (including elevator) and shows the two styles of elevator (continuous versus cascade). Our 2007 robot used the cascade approach.
__________________
Art Dutra IV
Robotics Engineer, VEX Robotics, Inc., a subsidiary of Innovation First International (IFI)
Robowranglers Team 148 | GUS Robotics Team 228 (Alumni) | Rho Beta Epsilon (Alumni) | @arthurdutra

世上无难事,只怕有心人.
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-01-2011, 20:56
caincteam2777 caincteam2777 is offline
Registered User
FRC #2777
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: blackwell
Posts: 30
caincteam2777 has a spectacular aura aboutcaincteam2777 has a spectacular aura about
Re: Telescoping System

I am having trouble finding sliding mechanisms
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-01-2011, 21:23
DonRotolo's Avatar
DonRotolo DonRotolo is offline
Back to humble
FRC #0832
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Atlanta GA
Posts: 7,011
DonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Telescoping System

Look for "Linear Motion" on the 80/20 web site. For example Page 497 of their catalog.
__________________

I am N2IRZ - What's your callsign?
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-01-2011, 21:37
Jeff Rodriguez Jeff Rodriguez is offline
Too young to be an 'old guy'
FRC #0155 (Technonuts)
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Rookie Year: 1999
Location: Newington, CT
Posts: 1,943
Jeff Rodriguez has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Rodriguez has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Rodriguez has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Rodriguez has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Rodriguez has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Rodriguez has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Rodriguez has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Rodriguez has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Rodriguez has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Rodriguez has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Rodriguez has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Jeff Rodriguez Send a message via Yahoo to Jeff Rodriguez
Re: Telescoping System

RAGE's 2005 arm is worth a look:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/20545
__________________
173, student: 1999-2002
173, mentor: 2005-2010
155, teacher: 2011-
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 23:39.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi