Logomotion Scorer Android App

[Dave Scheck]

I commend you for your effort, but please take this advice....don't put anything on the market until you've had a good chance to completely test it. There are too many major problems with this app that you need to fix. Don't take the Microsoft approach and just put something out that's not working completely just to patch it later.

- The total score isn't calculated (which is the intention of the app right?). The top, middle, bottom work, but aren't summed.

- The way you're drawing things doesn't support landscape orientation. The tubes and total score end up being drawn off the screen. If you want to force the app to only be portrait, set the Activity's orientation property in the manifest.

- When the phone is rotated, the activity is restarted and the screen is cleared. To fix this, you need to update the Activity in the manifest to handle configuration change events from orientation events. You'll find a similar problem if the keyboard is opened/closed on something like a Droid. For that you need to handle keyboard and keyboardHidden events. You don't need to do anything with the events, but you need to at least have the handlers

- Your circles look hand drawn. If you're direct drawing, you should look into turning on antialiasing for your Paint object.

You have potential with this app. Keep plugging at it and make sure it's bulletproof before you put it on the market.

[Dave Scheck]

I just found that your ubertube scoring isn't working correctly.

When I put an ubertube on the top row, I get 6 points (from autonomous) as the Top value. When I place a shape on top of that ubertube, the Top value goes to 8 (rather than 12).

Running the same test on the middle, I get a value of 4 after auto, then a value of 6 (not 8) when the tube is placed on top.

Running the same test on the middle, I get a value of 4 after auto, then a value of 6 (not 8) when the tube is placed on top.

I also noticed that if you put an ubertube over an ubertube, the score goes to 0.

[Bryan Herbst]

Originally Posted by Dave Scheck

I commend you for your effort, but please take this advice....don't put anything on the market until you've had a good chance to completely test it. There are too many major problems with this app that you need to fix. Don't take the Microsoft approach and just put something out that's not working completely just to patch it later.

- The total score isn't calculated (which is the intention of the app right?). The top, middle, bottom work, but aren't summed.

- The way you're drawing things doesn't support landscape orientation. The tubes and total score end up being drawn off the screen. If you want to force the app to only be portrait, set the Activity's orientation property in the manifest.

- When the phone is rotated, the activity is restarted and the screen is cleared. To fix this, you need to update the Activity in the manifest to handle configuration change events from orientation events. You'll find a similar problem if the keyboard is opened/closed on something like a Droid. For that you need to handle keyboard and keyboardHidden events. You don't need to do anything with the events, but you need to at least have the handlers

- Your circles look hand drawn. If you're direct drawing, you should look into turning on antialiasing for your Paint object.

You have potential with this app. Keep plugging at it and make sure it's bulletproof before you put it on the market.

I was planning on waiting until this version was more refined before releasing it to the market, and I had planned on refining it tonight.

As for the first two/three issues- I had fixed those, but it would appear that I zipped the wrong APK. Landscape is not supported right now, though it probably will be once I add the ability to have more than one grid.

The circles are actually images created in photoshop. Can you detail what makes them look hand drawn? In any case, I modified them slightly for this release.

The scoring issue should be fixed now as well.

Thanks for the feedback and testing! This is my first real android app. I have done a few tutorial apps, but had yet to actually find a useful app to make. Definitely a new experience.

[Bryan Herbst]

Updated.

Added ability to clear individual pegs (long press on a peg)
Added selected tube highlighting
Added 3 ubertube limit on the grid, which can be disabled on the app's new settings page.

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by Tanis

Updated.

Added ability to clear individual pegs (long press on a peg)
Added selected tube highlighting
Added 3 ubertube limit on the grid, which can be disabled on the app's new settings page.

I don't believe you reset the ubertube limit counter when you clear the pegs - I'm looking at an empty rack after hanging three ubertubes then clearing them. Attempting to add another ubertube brings up the 3 tube limit error message.

Keep up the improvements!

[Hallry]

It doesn't work at all on my unrooted Droid 2 running Froyo...am I doing something wrong?

[Cyberphil]

Thanks for the reference. Although I do not have an android, I will be sure to show this to my teammates!

[Dave Scheck]

Originally Posted by Hallry

It doesn't work at all on my unrooted Droid 2 running Froyo...am I doing something wrong?

You probably need to go to Settings->Applications and enable Unknown Sources.

The latest apk is definitely more accurate than the first one. It looks like you handled the rotation event, but there's a bug now where opening and closing the Droid keyboard "hangs" the app. In this state I can't select new tubes to place. I have to force stop it to get functionality back.

As far as the circle goes, it still looks funky to me. It looks circular, but it has a bitmap quality to it. The curves are somewhat stepped and doesn't look like a true circle. Is there a reason that you went with predrawn images rather than just drawing on the canvas? You could easily do what you're trying to do by drawing the colored shape (circle, square, triangle) first, followed by a concentric white circle to represent the background, followed by a black dot to represent the peg.

We all start somewhere. It's what we learn from our experiences that keeps us moving forward.

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by Dave Scheck

You probably need to go to Settings->Applications and enable Unknown Sources.

The latest apk is definitely more accurate than the first one. It looks like you handled the rotation event, but there's a bug now where opening and closing the Droid keyboard "hangs" the app. In this state I can't select new tubes to place. I have to force stop it to get functionality back.

As far as the circle goes, it still looks funky to me. It looks circular, but it has a bitmap quality to it. The curves are somewhat stepped and doesn't look like a true circle. Is there a reason that you went with predrawn images rather than just drawing on the canvas? You could easily do what you're trying to do by drawing the colored shape (circle, square, triangle) first, followed by a concentric white circle to represent the background, followed by a black dot to represent the peg.

We all start somewhere. It's what we learn from our experiences that keeps us moving forward.

I did have Unknown Sources enabled for the whole time, yet it still wouldn't open.

[Bryan Herbst]

@Travis- You were correct. Fixed in the latest version below.

Originally Posted by Dave Scheck

The latest apk is definitely more accurate than the first one. It looks like you handled the rotation event, but there's a bug now where opening and closing the Droid keyboard "hangs" the app. In this state I can't select new tubes to place. I have to force stop it to get functionality back.

How do I test this with a virtual device? I don't see an obvious way to do it with the virtual G1 I have been using and my phone doesn't have a keyboard.

Originally Posted by Dave Scheck

Is there a reason that you went with predrawn images rather than just drawing on the canvas?

I haven't played with the android graphics tools at all. I will take a look at that later this week and see what I get.

Out of curiosity, what size screen are you using? They look fine on my screen, but it is relatively small.

Hallry- What method are you using to install the apk? When you say it doesn't work at all, do you mean that it doesn't load at all, you see a black screen, it force closes, or you see the correct screen but can't do anything?

[Hawahee]

It's good so far...but isn't there like two sets of grids on each side of the field?

[Bryan Herbst]

Originally Posted by Hawahee

It's good so far...but isn't there like two sets of grids on each side of the field?

Yes, but the typically small screen size of android devices makes putting two or more grids on the same screen incredibly impractical. I do however have a plan for this and am hoping the app will support using all four grids by tomorrow evening.

@Hallry- Darist hit the nail right on the head. Since CD doesn't allow for uploading .apk files, I had to zip it first. Thus you need to unzip it before it will work.


@Darist- Long pressing resets the uber count correctly for me. EDIT: Never mind, found the bug. Only happens with a game piece on an ubertube. Fixed in latest release (see main post).

[Dave Scheck]

The Droid screen is 480x854 while the G1 is 320x480 reference. You probably need to utilize the drawable-hdpi, drawable-mdpi, and drawable-ldpi to get the correct image drawn on different devices. As long as you name the files in those directories correctly, it will automatically select the correct resolution for the device it's running on. If you switch to direct draw, that problem goes away, however, you need to be careful about the size values that you use so that they scale properly to other resolutions.

You can (and should) create multiple emulators of different screen resolutions to make sure things look right.

I've never tested the keyboard event in the emulator, but from what I've read, people seem to say CTRL-F11 triggers the keyboard open/close event. I've used that to change orientation, but maybe it also changes the keyboard as well. You can test this easily by throwing a breakpoint in your config change handler and checking out the contents of the config object.

As far as your comment about the screen size being small, I have to disagree. If you force your layout to be landscape, you have as much horizontal room as you need. Then, maybe don't draw giant images for your tubes. Rather, direct draw smaller shapes to fit more on the screen. I'm sure that you'll be able to get more on there and make it useful. As a tip, when you're direct drawing something like this, make it all based on constants so you can quickly change things like peg radius, peg x/y grid spacing. etc

You can get quite a bit on the screen in landscape mode if you don't care about multitouch (if you think there are differences between screen resolutions, you should see the differences in multitouch capability).

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by Tanis

@Hallry- Darist hit the nail right on the head. Since CD doesn't allow for uploading .apk files, I had to zip it first. Thus you need to unzip it before it will work.

Well I downloaded the ES File Manager, and it works perfectly now. Thanks a bunch!

[Travis Hoffman]

Be sure to edit the app to not double the ubertube autonomous score with a covering logo row, per Team Update #1.

A logo row covering 3 ubertubes on a top row would be worth an autonomous score of 18 plus a peg score of ([3+3+3] * 2 * 2) = 36.