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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

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In the manual, it specifies that you need at least ONE battery on the minibot. However, that doesn't mean you have to hook it up to anything.
Please show me where it says you need that.

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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

Some folks say <R92> says that.

I say that it doesn't, and I also think the GDC has enough common sense not to force us to use a battery.

But even <R92> bars more than one battery.
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

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Please show me where it says you need that.

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<R92> The following items are the only permitted materials for use on the MINIBOTS:
C. exactly one 12V rechargeable NiMH battery pack identical to those supplied in the FTC kit of parts (PN W739057)
After seeing EricH's post, though, I'm starting to question this statement.
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

I was more refering to the 'at least' part.
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

I agree that a battery isn't required, it is just stated that the 12v is allowed. According to what I've read, I don't feel that the MiniBot needs to remain atop the tower once the pressure sensors have been triggered.
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

<R92> begins with: "The following items are the only permitted materials for use on the MINIBOTS:" The list following is only a list of the items that can be used... a team isn't required to use all of them or any specific ones, as long as no unlisted components are used.

This seems like the most reasonable interpretation, I suppose the question should be asked of the GDC, though...
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

I'm >< to calling the GDC politicians instead of geniuses.

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<G19> After DEPLOYMENT, MINIBOTS must remain completely autonomous and move up the POST solely through electric energy provided after DEPLOYMENT by the permitted, unaltered battery and converted to mechanical energy by the permitted unaltered motors (and associated, appropriate circuitry). Violation: The TOWER on which the MINIBOT is DEPLOYED is disabled. If the MINIBOT is not deployed DEPLOYED on something other than a TOWER, then the ALLIANCE’Ss TOWER upon which the highest RACE SCORE was earned will be discounted.[bluebox]<G19> means that HOSTBOTS are not allowed to launch the MINIBOT up the pole at the TARGET, or otherwise contribute to the vertical movement of the MINIBOT. Energy for vertical movement may not be stored in the MINIBOT before DEPLOYMENT (except that which is contained within the battery and excluding incidental kinetic energy stored in the motors or wheels, but NOT, for example, in a flywheel).[/bluebox]
In other words, you must use the FTC battery.
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

i just read rule G19. all it says is: "After deployment, minirobots must remain completely autonomous."
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

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i just read rule G19. all it says is: "After deployment, minirobots must remain completely autonomous."
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

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I'm >< to calling the GDC politicians instead of geniuses.

From Team Update #1:

In other words, you must use the FTC battery.
Sigh. Glad they announced this after FIRST Choice orders could started to be placed.

I highly doubt this was a decision made after 3 days of the game being out.
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

in update #1 it states that your mine bot has to be attached to the pole so no lanching
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

i take it back, G19 is exactly what EricH said
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

BLUEBOX <G19> states that HOSTBOTS are not allowed to launch the MINIBOT up the pole at the TARGET, or otherwise contribute to the vertical movement of the MINIBOT.

Then could the minibot somehow trigger a device itself (spring loaded) and shoot itself up to the top of the pole?
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

Same Bluebox says something to the effect of you can't store vertical-movement energy in the Minibot, except in the battery.
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Re: Does the MiniBot need to be a "bot"

Then couldn't the spring be on the bottom of the minibot and a motor powers it downwards. After a certain period of time, the motor stops and a mechanism triggers the spring to release and propel it to the top (with the help of the motors going forward).

Would this be considered as stored energy?
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