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Re: 2010 Gearboxes. Can they be used for Logomotion?

Remember though... they're only COTS if
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So if you modified them at all, they are no longer COTS and can't be used. If they arrived from the vendor disassembled, to comply with both the letter and intent of the rule, you should disassemble and reassemble them before use this year (give that task to a new member who can use it as an opportunity to learn about the gear boxes!).
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Re: 2010 Gearboxes. Can they be used for Logomotion?

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So if you modified them at all, they are no longer COTS and can't be used. If they arrived from the vendor disassembled, to comply with both the letter and intent of the rule, you should disassemble and reassemble them before use this year (give that task to a new member who can use it as an opportunity to learn about the gear boxes!).
Pulling a gearbox apart and together doesn't sound like "the intent of the rule" - it sounds like a pedantic waste of 2 hours.

Assembly did not modify the gear box in any way - I see no reason it has to be pulled apart.
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Re: 2010 Gearboxes. Can they be used for Logomotion?

I would disagree... there's a lot that students can learn putting together a gear box - something that is completely lost on newer students if you just keep reusing old gear boxes. Taken to an extreme, if you assemble a set of toughboxes this year, and the team just keeps using them every year for the next 4 years, you'll have students on the team that have never seen the inside of a gear box, and don't have that practical knowledge knowledge of how it all fits together and works to provide the gear reduction your using. They just know there's a magic box they have to hook up to the CIM motors.

Remember, the competition isn't about building a robot. It's about the practical experience and learning opportunities that arise. Throwing those opportunities out in order to get the robot built faster only hurts you and your team.
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