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Re: 6in or 8in?

For us, the question is always, "what is the smallest wheel we can safely run?".

This year, it's 4".

Andymark has great 4" wheels for cheap that will give you traction with the best of teams.

I recommended the 4" plaction wheels for a dead axle setup (the bearing has wheels in it and rotates on a shaft, and the wheel is directly driven by an attached sprocket), and the 4" performance wheels for a live axle setup (wheel driven by hexed or keyed hub).

The lower wheels make it way easier to get a low CG, among many other benefits.
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Re: 6in or 8in?

Thats exactly what we are doing! you read my mind!
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Re: 6in or 8in?

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The lower wheels make it way easier to get a low CG, among many other benefits.
Our CG as of now is under 2 inches from the floor. Small wheels are the best!

ignore that we don't have a manipulator yet, just for a second...
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Re: 6in or 8in?

We're fans of 4" wheels as well.
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Re: 6in or 8in?

As many have mentioned it all comes out in the wash depending on gearing.

The KoP wheels have a coefficient of friction of 0.9, compared to 1.2/1.3 for the plaction wheels with wedgetop/roughtop tread.

I am a fan of keeping the CG low, but for the purposes of high-speed impacts you want to keep your CG inside the bumper zone, which happens to be pretty darn low this year: 1" to 7" IIRC.

FWIW we are planning on using 6wd with 6" plaction in the middle where most of the grip is generated, and 2007 FIRST wheels on the corners (you can buy them from AM). They are a softer rubber than the 2011 KoP wheel so they have a CoF of 1.
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Re: 6in or 8in?

We originally tried to design for 3" Colson wheels to eliminate a gearbox stage, but are going with 4" wheels to aid ground clearance.
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Re: 6in or 8in?

For the 4in plaction wheels, would you go with roughtop or wedgetop tread?
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Re: 6in or 8in?

AndyMark quotes a coefficient of friction of 1.2 for the wedge-top and 1.3 for the rough-top. I do not know if there are other advantages to either though.
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Re: 6in or 8in?

So which of the two treads would you use, on your wheels?
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Re: 6in or 8in?

Higher coefficient of friction is generally better. It means your more likely to be torque limited instead of traction limited. Though a difference of .1 probably won't make a difference.
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Re: 6in or 8in?

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So which of the two treads would you use, on your wheels?
Our team went with the wedgetop tread. I have heard that the roughtop has a tendency to wear down faster than the wedgetop.

Our team went with the 6" plaction wheels. I really wanted to use the 4" plactions, but it was going to get a little tricky with the KOP frame and wanting to keep it as simple as possible. The more time we spent on our drivebase is the less time we have driving it!
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Re: 6in or 8in?

We are using rough-top in the middle of our dropped-center 6wd for maximum grip.
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Re: 6in or 8in?

We're going with a 6WD 6" dropped pneumatic in the center and with omnis on the corners.
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