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Re: pic: Final 2011 Drivetrain

This thread is full of so much awesome only Andy Baker himself could trump it.

Poohbear, I think we're mocking your pompous attitude rather than your design. As it stands your statements defy physics (and even your followup breaks 1 of Karthik's 2 Golden Rules as Chris pointed out). If this bot worked at you've presented it, then the universe would quite literally rip itself apart from all of the electromagnetic law violations. Thus, we're going to error on the side of caution .... err, at least I will ... because I like my life, and want to live to see May without the world ripping itself apart.

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Re: pic: Final 2011 Drivetrain

You guys are getting trolled so hard. You honestly think that someone would machine a chassis out of a 800 lb block of what is essentially unobtanium (7071 Al), with ridiculous wheels that would clearly never roll, or then decide when you point out how ridiculous their "design" is that they're going to make a 2 speed swerve instead?

It's clearly sarcasm and this guy is clearly enjoying the heck out of the fun he's having at everyone else's expense.
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Re: pic: Final 2011 Drivetrain

I see being honest was an incorrect move. i guess i should encourage teams to try stupid ideas... (sarcasm)

i'm sorry, but spoonfeeding false encouragement is in my eyes, not helpful.

I was not mocking, i was pointing out that some basic concepts were being broken. I never said that the OP was stupid, nor did i imply such. unknowing or ignorant, perhaps, but not stupid.
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Re: pic: Final 2011 Drivetrain

I'm sorry but this seems like a ridiculous design. Some classic rookie mistake IMO.

1. There is limited space for putting sweet magnets on your robot. Switch to steel, the sweet magnets will be abundant.

2. Decagons? Aluminum comes in rectangular blocks, not decagonal blocks. Using squares would save you a lot of fabrication time.

3. None of the wheels come out the side of your robot. Think about this. Your robot has 12 sides (10 veritcal planes plus top and bottom) and you can only drive it if the bottom face stays on the bottom? You clearly have no chance of doing some sweet side-riding.

4. I do not see any wings. If you plan to go that fast, why not put some wings on it and try to catch air for a few seconds?

5. Creativity is minimal here. Come on, you don't think we've all seen the "Holonomic, decagonal wheeled, high traction, 154 fps, solid aluminum block" robot before? This is old hat my friend.

Finally, I would like to say how surprised I am that nobody pointed out these flaws earlier. I'm lucky I did, as I really would hate to see so much time going into a design and then forgetting about sweet magnet space. Good luck this year. Best thread I have read in a while.
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Re: pic: Final 2011 Drivetrain

Ya'll are posting in a troll thread.
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Re: pic: Final 2011 Drivetrain

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Re: pic: Final 2011 Drivetrain

I can't help myself...

Please PoohBear, I want to hear more. Can you elaborate on your plans for a control system (sensors, programming, etc...) on this beast of a robot your team is putting together?
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Re: pic: Final 2011 Drivetrain

I am hoping somebody tries this for 2012. I was sad to see that this design didn't hit the field.
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Re: pic: Final 2011 Drivetrain

For our 2012 robot, we've been thinking about a 22-sided chassis with three triangular omni-wheels, because triangles are, of course, the most stable structure. Cims will power the wheels individually, geared for high torque.

This will be our game object manipulator:
http://kottke.org/10/10/robot-beanba...-grip-anything

We will have five of those.
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Re: pic: Final 2011 Drivetrain

AS the build season begins, I think we need to really look back at some of the most innovative designs that were EVER seen in 2011. This is one such. PLEASE. EVERYONE needs to read this whole thread. you will learn a LOT.

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Re: pic: Final 2011 Drivetrain

I think that my design guide posted here still holds some excellent points for building a super-awesome machine!
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Re: pic: Final 2011 Drivetrain

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This thread is full of so much awesome only Andy Baker himself could trump it.

Poohbear, I think we're mocking your pompous attitude rather than your design. As it stands your statements defy physics (and even your followup breaks 1 of Karthik's 2 Golden Rules as Chris pointed out). If this bot worked at you've presented it, then the universe would quite literally rip itself apart from all of the electromagnetic law violations. Thus, we're going to error on the side of caution .... err, at least I will ... because I like my life, and want to live to see May without the world ripping itself apart.
Thread Revival Warning: I saw this post in the spotlight quotes. What are Karthik's 2 Golden Rules? Or was that just made up in this post?
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Thread Revival Warning: I saw this post in the spotlight quotes. What are Karthik's 2 Golden Rules? Or was that just made up in this post?
Utilizing the search function would answer your question.
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Thread Revival Warning: I saw this post in the spotlight quotes. What are Karthik's 2 Golden Rules? Or was that just made up in this post?
Karthik's 2 Golden Rules are most definitely a thing. I've quoted them below:

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  • Golden Rule #2: If a team has 30 units of robot and functions have maximum of 10 units, better to have 3 functions at 10/10 instead of 5 at 6/10
These come from a presentation by Karthik about Effective FIRST Strategies, for which you can find the slide deck here. Highly recommend reading it, it is incredibly informative and pretty awesome.
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