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I saw this in a post on another forum
when building a robot:
"cheap fast or good, pick 2"

"Better is the enemy of good enough" (it it works fine, dont try to make it better)

"90% of the work is done by 10% of the team"
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From Timberlane Team meetings:
"That PVC goal pip is NOT a lightsaber"

"No you are NOT a jedi"

"It aint broke, it just lacks duct tape"
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It's more than slightly embarrassing to be staring at your own design two years later trying to get to where your own head was at 3 AM that fateful "night before deadline" when you, cranked up on caffeine and desperately trying to get the darn thing out the door had some epiphany of insight. You can even remember thinking "Oh heck, this is really cool, non-obvious, it works, and (fateful last words) I'll just get around to documenting it sometime next week when I have "more time"... - Keith
Been there....... Done that.......
Trust me. You don't want to be in that situation.

And it hasn't happen to me, but I have witnessed the "Your too vital at what you do" to be promoted fallout.

How about we amend it to:

"Comment just because you don't want to be the guy working on the code. You want to be the guy developing new exciting projects, not changing exisiting code.
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No, You CAN NOT HOLD THE STICK BACKWARDS! It won't work right. I don't care what you think feels good. You'll forget which way is forward, let alone left and right! The program isn't going to be completely redone just because you think that way feels good. They're ergonomically designed, for crying out loud! Are your hands on backwards? NO! Then don't hold the stick backwards. And wear your glasses, we can't afford another bit like when Dave neglected to tell us that he was blind.

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How about we amend it to:

"Comment just because you don't want to be the guy working on the code. You want to be the guy developing new exciting projects, not changing existing code.
You've got it exactly!

I know I don't want to be the one forced to hang around in "maintenance mode" when a new project challenge shows up at the office and it's up for grabs.

My secret: I comment the heck out of everything I do just so any junior member can take charge of it, freeing me for better things. The ones that "program for job security" are the ones that end up never getting a promotion. but hey, they got what they wanted!

My quote:

"Anyone that programs for job security may suddenly find they got their wish... at the expense of advancement..."

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Not quite engineering, and not quite a slogan, but my Computer Science teacher said this on the first day of class.

"The purpose of commenting is that if you get fired, or hit by a bus, someone else can finish your program!"
I can really appreciate the comments on this by Kieth and Mike.

As a software engineer for over 20 years, I think I'm safe in saying that this is an engineering slogan. Variations on this slogan have been around since the early days of computing. I suspect that even Charles Babbage, and certainly those working with him or studying his work, uttered similar words. The refinements presented here are great!
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quote:
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Not quite engineering, and not quite a slogan, but my Computer Science teacher said this on the first day of class.

"The purpose of commenting is that if you get fired, or hit by a bus, someone else can finish your program!"

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I can really appreciate the comments on this by Kieth and Mike.

As a software engineer for over 20 years, I think I'm safe in saying that this is an engineering slogan. Variations on this slogan have been around since the early days of computing. I suspect that even Charles Babbage, and certainly those working with him or studying his work, uttered similar words. The refinements presented here are great!
And don't believe the old myth that you can ensure your job security by making your code as unintelligible as possible (by not commenting, etc.)
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Among the favorites that we used in the build cycle

"If it was easy, I would have done it" (Usually used when directing a student towards a project that has no clear answer yet)

"Its OK, if you mess it up you just get to do it again"

"We'll fix that in programming"

"Sissor lifts suck"

And from my first year in this..

"why did they give us all these bearings?"



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When considering adding another motor

Oh yeah, I almost forgot... Last year, people kept suggesting adding more motors, actuators, or complex mechanisms simply to make things go down. I kept chanting this over and over in response until the students finally started finishing the phrase with me:

"Remember: Gravity is your friend... USE it.."



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Here are a couple of quotes that my old team used to use back in 1997 when we had an Engineer (who helped us on his free time and was our only engineer) was on the team. He had these quotes:

"It is better to look Good than to be Good"
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"It came to me in a stroke of mediocrity"
-Grant McStay

The team slogan also became "It's all Grant's fault" but that was mostly a team joke.
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