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Re: 2011 Archimedes Division

In the end it comes down to scouting. Our score is lower than it should be in some ways. Once we actually got our robot playing properly (minus the one time when our Autonomous mode actually reversed, ran into the robot behind us, and lodged them into the rear wall), we played with extreme accuracy. Ahh well - next year we will have to go to two regionals.
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Re: 2011 Archimedes Division

OPR is a representation of an individual robots contribution to the score of their alliances. OPR is calculated using matrix algebra. This approach helps to compensate for having stronger or weaker alliance partners.

Ultimately statistics derived from final scores will always have flaws. They are a useful jumping off point, and talking point before the event, but any team worth their salt won't be considering these numbers at all for alliance selection.
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Re: 2011 Archimedes Division

Its not a big deal. I was just wondering how the OPR was calculated.
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Re: 2011 Archimedes Division

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OK, then could some one explain what factors in to OPR
Qualification match scores and partners are the only factors. Here is my most recent explanation.

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In the end it comes down to scouting. Our score is lower than it should be in some ways. Once we actually got our robot playing properly (minus the one time when our Autonomous mode actually reversed, ran into the robot behind us, and lodged them into the rear wall), we played with extreme accuracy. Ahh well - next year we will have to go to two regionals.
No metric based on prior matches is a replacement for good scouting of individual robots at the competition. These OPRs are calculated for single events and are not calculated across events. The best teams at weak events tend to have a inordinately high OPRs. However IMHO, OPR is better than WLT ranking, Avg score and of course bad scouting (including shout out your team numbers from the crowd). I have seen enough teams struggle through Alliance Selection that would have been much better off running OPRnet on their regional Friday night and just using that list (and hope they pick someone who has a good list based on actual good scouting)
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Re: 2011 Archimedes Division

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However IMHO, OPR is better than WLT ranking, Avg score and of course bad scouting (including shout out your team numbers from the crowd).
Hmm - guess that means I should nix the megaphones - and just when I was getting our round-robin 3337 down with the group. Though on a more serious note, while yelling your numbers doesn't help, I did find that gracious professionalism goes a long way in making a good impression on a top eight team.
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Re: 2011 Archimedes Division

3467 Windham Windup is so ready for Archimedes!!!!!
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Re: 2011 Archimedes Division

Hey everyone! 2016 can't wait to see you all in St Louis!
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Re: 2011 Archimedes Division

PUMPED for St. Louis!!!!! This is going to be a good one, I see some tough MI teams in this crowd...awesome! Go 1918!!!
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Re: 2011 Archimedes Division

Bedford Express is eager to meet you all (and eager to play with our Michigan friends some more!!) Playing in the dome on Saturday is icing on the cake! It's going to be a great competition regardless of where we play though!

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MEDES!!!!

This is going to be an exciting division. With Michigan powerhouses such as 33, 1023, 1718, 1918, 2054 and 3098 represented and traditional powerhouses such as 118, 45, 177, 330, 360, and 1912, eliminations are definitely going to be pretty intense. I second the hope of an all-Michigan alliance going to Einstein .
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Re: 2011 Archimedes Division

Looking forward to it! Sounds likes it will be intense and yet fun at the same time.
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Re: 2011 Archimedes Division

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MEDES!!!!

This is going to be an exciting division. With Michigan powerhouses such as 33, 1023, 1718, 1918, 2054 and 3098 represented and traditional powerhouses such as 118, 45, 177, 330, 360, 1912, and 1912, eliminations are definitely going to be pretty intense. I second the hope of an all-Michigan alliance going to Einstein .
Haha no martians on that list?
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Haha no martians on that list?
Haha, as much as I love the Martians teams, there will be no curse afflictions this year
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This is going to be an exciting division. With Michigan powerhouses such as 33, 1023, 1718, 1918, 2054 and 3098 represented and traditional powerhouses such as 118, 45, 177, 330, 360, 1912, and 1912, eliminations are definitely going to be pretty intense. I second the hope of an all-Michigan alliance going to Einstein .
Definitely going to be fun times! GO BLUE! (hope there are no state fans.. haha) maybe I should stick with GO MICHIGAN! (and of course everyone else too!) Very anxious to meet up with old friends and make new ones! Will be hard to focus on anything else for the next week and a half!
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Definitely going to be fun times! GO BLUE! (hope there are no state fans.. haha) maybe I should stick with GO MICHIGAN! (and of course everyone else too!) Very anxious to meet up with old friends and make new ones! Will be hard to focus on anything else for the next week and a half!
Dear Debbie,
GO BLUE is perfectly acceptable.

Sincerely, a fellow UofM fan.
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