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Re: pic: Pigmice Northwest Drive

Just curious, why the 4 inch wheels? The smallest I've heard of in the past are 6 inches. Also, don't be nervous about posting stuff on here. It looks really good and you should be proud of your work. We may ask questions, but we try not to be too scary.

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Re: pic: Pigmice Northwest Drive

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Just curious, why the 4 inch wheels? The smallest I've heard of in the past are 6 inches.
254 used 3.5" this year and 233's wheels were smaller. In recent years, small wheels have been one of the defining features of "west coast drive" robots such as this. Just look at the robots of two of the current world champions.

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254 used 3.5" this year and 233's wheels were smaller.
bout 2.75in rims on the corners last year.

next year expect possibly 2.5in rims for packaging reasons.
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254 used 3.5" this year and 233's wheels were smaller. In recent years, small wheels have been one of the defining features of "west coast drive" robots such as this. Just look at the robots of two of the current world champions.
Why though? What is the functional advantage?

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Why though? What is the functional advantage?

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-Less Weight
-Cheaper Material
-Less Machine Time
-Less Gearing, 233 may get away with only one stage of gearing?
-Better acceleration
-More efficient.

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Why though? What is the functional advantage?

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Less, and thus lighter, gearing results in the same effective ratio, also the wheels are smaller. the weight savings might be enough of a reason, but smaller wheels and the associated gearing allow the motors to operate at a different, possibly more efficient part of the performance curves.
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Re: pic: Pigmice Northwest Drive

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Less, and thus lighter, gearing results in the same effective ratio, also the wheels are smaller. the weight savings might be enough of a reason, but smaller wheels and the associated gearing allow the motors to operate at a different, possibly more efficient part of the performance curves.
That is not strictly true. While at the same rpm the smaller wheels would go at a different (slower) speed, the gear ratio could be used to compensate. While there are fewer gears necessary to get the same speed,there isn't a change in the fact that, with enough gears, you can gear for any speed
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Re: pic: Pigmice Northwest Drive

I like it, but how are you attach your SS? and why did you make a "V" in front instead of adding a front rail because the rules for the bumpers this year would not allow that. How exactly are you planning to mount the bumpers to the 1' alum. tubing on the sides? and do I spy a custom center wheel? last question I promise, hex axle or keyed axle?

But looks great keep up the good work
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