Go to Post The pen [may be] mightier than the sword, but the bandsaw can chop them both. - Marc P. [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > ChiefDelphi.com Website > Extra Discussion
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-03-2013, 22:49
Aidan S.'s Avatar
Aidan S. Aidan S. is offline
2013 World Champions!
FRC #0610 (The Coyotes)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 71
Aidan S. is just really niceAidan S. is just really niceAidan S. is just really niceAidan S. is just really nice
Re: pic: 1538 Wiring 2/4/2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iaquinto.Joe View Post
Good documentation and little changes helps keep labeling unnecessary. Unfortunately we haven't mastered this technique yet
I agree that good documentation is key, but even with that labelling is a necessity. It eliminates the risk of a mistake being made if a component has to be swapped. From experience, I can say that having labels at either end of our wires made my life a whole lot easier at competitions when I was on my team's pit crew.
__________________
2013 Galileo Division & World Champions with 1241 and 1477 #TheTheoryOfTexanCoyotes
2012 - ????: Mentor, Team 610 2009 - 2012: Student, Team 610
2013 - ????: Strategy Adviser, Team 1310

Thanks to all the great alliance partners through the years: 67, 188 x4, 191 x2, 488, 469, 578, 842, 862, 1212, 1241, 1305, 1310 x2, 1325, 1334, 1511, 1535, 1477, 1559 x2, 2122, 2168, 3161, 3360, 3396, 3476, 3609, 3756, 4124
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-03-2013, 22:52
connor.worley's Avatar
connor.worley connor.worley is offline
Registered User
FRC #0973 (Greybots)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: Berkeley/San Diego
Posts: 601
connor.worley has a reputation beyond reputeconnor.worley has a reputation beyond reputeconnor.worley has a reputation beyond reputeconnor.worley has a reputation beyond reputeconnor.worley has a reputation beyond reputeconnor.worley has a reputation beyond reputeconnor.worley has a reputation beyond reputeconnor.worley has a reputation beyond reputeconnor.worley has a reputation beyond reputeconnor.worley has a reputation beyond reputeconnor.worley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: 1538 Wiring 2/4/2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aidan S. View Post
I agree that good documentation is key, but even with that labelling is a necessity. It eliminates the risk of a mistake being made if a component has to be swapped. From experience, I can say that having labels at either end of our wires made my life a whole lot easier at competitions when I was on my team's pit crew.
Since everything is cut to length and zip-tied down near its relevant component, it's pretty hard to accidentally swap in the wrong cable. We've never had a cable fail.
__________________
Team 973 (2016-???)
Team 5499 (2015-2016)
Team 254 (2014-2015)

Team 1538 (2011-2014)
2014 Driver (25W 17L 1T)
日本語でOK
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-03-2013, 23:24
theawesome1730's Avatar
theawesome1730 theawesome1730 is offline
Registered User
FRC #1730 (Team Driven)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Lee's Summit, MO
Posts: 316
theawesome1730 will become famous soon enough
Re: pic: 1538 Wiring 2/4/2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by connor.worley View Post
We've never had a cable fail.
Doesn't mean they won't. On our practice robot we had a PWM short to 12 volts and it caught fire. It killed a victor, the PWM and the sidecar. Had our PWMs not been labeled a 5 minutes swap could have taken a very long time

Edit:Moral of the story: Label everything! Especially the little cables to festos. When you have 6 festos and 2 breakouts things get real hairy real fast if they aren't labeled
__________________



2015 GKC Engineering Inspiration
2015 Colorado Winners

Last edited by theawesome1730 : 24-03-2013 at 23:27.
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 25-03-2013, 01:51
kiettyyyy's Avatar
kiettyyyy kiettyyyy is offline
Registered User
FRC #1538 (The Holy Cows)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 181
kiettyyyy has a reputation beyond reputekiettyyyy has a reputation beyond reputekiettyyyy has a reputation beyond reputekiettyyyy has a reputation beyond reputekiettyyyy has a reputation beyond reputekiettyyyy has a reputation beyond reputekiettyyyy has a reputation beyond reputekiettyyyy has a reputation beyond reputekiettyyyy has a reputation beyond reputekiettyyyy has a reputation beyond reputekiettyyyy has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to kiettyyyy
Re: pic: 1538 Wiring 2/4/2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by theawesome1730 View Post
Doesn't mean they won't. On our practice robot we had a PWM short to 12 volts and it caught fire. It killed a victor, the PWM and the sidecar. Had our PWMs not been labeled a 5 minutes swap could have taken a very long time

Edit:Moral of the story: Label everything! Especially the little cables to festos. When you have 6 festos and 2 breakouts things get real hairy real fast if they aren't labeled

I'm not a huge fan of labeling where it isn't necessary, especially in our application.

As Connor mentioned, cables are neatly ziptied and cut to length.

At the San Diego Regional, we happened to have a metal shaving short out our digital side car, meriting a complete replacement. The digital sidecar was replaced and tested in under 2 minutes. Not many teams can replace a fully loaded DSC in that time even if it were labeled.

It's just personal preference.
__________________
-Kiet Chau

2004-2008 - Software Developer/Driver on Team #968
2008-2011 - Software Developer/Coach/Mentor/"Engineer" on Team #968
2011-Present - Mentor & Engineer on Team #1538
www.team1538.com
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 21:46.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi