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Actually, could someone please get a question up for me in the Q&A?

I would just like you to ask if we are allowed to use something that aids the Human Player in throwing the litter over the Alliance Wall without it touching the litter.

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Check the Q&A Alexander....Asked & answered already.
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So, I guess that it would be legal for one person to stand on another's shoulders to throw the noodles, right?
G1 now becomes the driving force here. If you can do it SAFELY, and I do mean SAFELY, if the rules stay as they are in this area, I would probably consider this to be legal. That's a pretty big "If", though. I would recommend asking Q&A.
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Check the Q&A Alexander....Asked & answered already.
Really? What's the question number?
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Check the Q&A Alexander....Asked & answered already.
The only question I can find related to this would be Q2 :

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Q. Is it acceptable to create and use a device to aid or enhance the human player in casting litter over the alliance wall?

A.No, a device used to cast LITTER over the ALLIANCE WALL would not meet the requirements of "Special Equipment Rules" as outlined in Section 5.5.8, T21.
And this is T21 :
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The only equipment, provided it does not jam or interfere with the remote sensing capabilities of another Team, including vision
systems, acoustic range finders, sonars, infrared proximity detectors, etc. (e.g. including imagery that, to a reasonably astute
observer, mimics the Vision Guides), that may be brought in to the ALLIANCE STATION are as follows:
A. the OPERATOR CONSOLE,
B. non-powered signaling devices,
C. reasonable decorative items,
D. special clothing and/or equipment required due to a disability
E. devices used solely for the purpose of planning or tracking strategy provided they meet all of the following conditions:
  1. do not connect or attach to the OPERATOR CONSOLE
  2. do not connect or attach to the FIELD or ARENA
  3. do not connect or attach to another ALLIANCE member
  4. do not communicate with anything or anyone outside of the ARENA.
  5. do not include any form of enabled wireless electronic communication (e.g. radios, walkie-talkies, cell phones,
    Bluetooth communications, Wi-Fi, etc.)
  6. do not in any way affect the outcome of a MATCH, other than by allowing PLAYERS to plan or track strategy for the
    purposes of communication of that strategy to other ALLIANCE members...
This would mean that it wouldn't comply with T21 E3 ... Oh well
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So, in conclusion, the stilts mentioned in the very beginning of this post would be illegal according to T21 E3 ...

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T21 The only equipment [...] that may be brought in to the ALLIANCE STATION are as follows:
[...]
E. devices used solely for the purpose of planning or tracking strategy provided they meet all of the following conditions:
[...]
3. do not connect or attach to another ALLIANCE member
Nonetheless, it would be legal (but possibly dangerous!) for one Human Player to stand on another's shoulders if the rules stand as they are (clarification will still be needed in Q&A).

And then there's the idea of moon boots, shoe-stilts and super-thick soled shoes which needs clarification as well ...
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So, in fact, if the height was already incorporated into the shoes, and not an add-on like the stilts, it would be legal ... or am I wrong?
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Why does any of it matter? Be reasonable. Are you really going to be able to get any force behind a noodle when you're standing, or worse, sitting, on someone's shoulders? Please don't post Q&As just for the sake of argument, there are more important questions that should be answered.

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