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Re: pic: Compressor Fan Mount

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You were told to take it off? Did they cite the rule that it was breaking? We had a fan pointing at our compressor and made it through 2 Regional inspections and the Championship inspection with no problems.
Having a fan pointed at your compressor, and having a fan mounted on your compressor, are not the same thing. We have a fan pointed at our compressor also, it's mounted on a bracket which is attached to the robot belly pan.
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Re: pic: Compressor Fan Mount

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Having a fan pointed at your compressor, and having a fan mounted on your compressor, are not the same thing. We have a fan pointed at our compressor also, it's mounted on a bracket which is attached to the robot belly pan.
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Last year we had a fan for the compressor (mounted to the electrical board, not altering the compressor)...
That's what I was referring to.
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Re: pic: Compressor Fan Mount

I'll throw my opinion in here (and as I am the LRI at your week 1 event, you may want to know what it is..... )

Removing the bolts on the compressor, installing your bracket (which is very nice, by the way) and then re-installing the bolts, is a no-no.

There is a simple test for if something relating to "modifying" a pneumatics component is allowed: Did you pick up a tool? If so, it's probably not allowed unless it's on the specific list in R-65. R-65c allows you to assemble components together, such as installing a COTS threaded coupling into a threaded orifice in the COTS cylinder. If you are claiming you are assembling pneumatic components under R-65c, then R66 lists the allowed components, and your fan bracket is not listed. So R-65c does not apply.

I highly recommend mounting a legal fan next to the compressor, my team does that most years. Not sure why an inspector would have required a team to remove a fan. That's one of those situations where you should always respectfully and graciously request a second opinion from the LRI at the event.
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Re: pic: Compressor Fan Mount

Somehow we got away with this last year, except it was a different design. I didn't realize it was breaking the rules, shoot... And I was proud of it! I think I'm going to try and re-use it, except not mount it under the bolts, but instead on top of them. I'll try some stuff.
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