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Re: Sign this petition to allow girls in robotics! (at Timmins Public library)!

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It's incredibly unfortunate how often legitimate points in discussions like this are met with some variant of "check your privledge!!!". How would your response differ if that was posted anonymously?
My response wouldn't change because the argument you present comes from a privileged point of view.

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All that matters is that both boys and girls get an equal oppourtunity, with reasonably close to equal effort, to explore STEM careers. If this requires specifically gender-targeted programs, I am perfectly fine with that- it just has to be consistent. It is a single boys-only program in a province where there are, for example, over 200 FLL teams. Therefore, by my estimation, there are other opportunities closeby. If you are against some one-gender programs but not others, you are not being part of the solution.
Girls are not getting an equal opportunity to pursue STEM-related topics. Consequently, additional effort is required to correct our course.

A sleepy driver lets their car drift slowly toward the side of the road until they are awoken by a rumble strip. The driver is now aware there's a problem. A slow course correction -- one given equal effort to the drift that led them off course in the first place -- leads to disaster. Swift, immediate action is required.

There is a problem getting girls interested in STEM. Swift, immediate action is required. Continuing to stay the course leads to disaster.
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Re: Sign this petition to allow girls in robotics! (at Timmins Public library)!

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A sleepy driver lets their car drift slowly toward the side of the road until they are awoken by a rumble strip. The driver is now aware there's a problem. A slow course correction -- one given equal effort to the drift that led them off course in the first place -- leads to disaster. Swift, immediate action is required.
And sudden knee-jerk course correction leads to rolling the car over, leading to disaster.

No one (I've seen here) is saying there isn't an existing problem with the participation of girls in STEM. No one is seriously advocating we eliminate girl-targeted STEM activities. We disagree about the best way to make things fair and equitable (which consequently are charged words that are ambiguous in their interpretation)

Lastly, I'll leave this here
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