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Old 16-05-2016, 13:36
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Re: A(nother) Sad Day For FIRST

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As a side bar, someone has just negative repped me for "You can not make up reasons to give neg rep". I didn't rep the OP, but the irony is strong with this one.
My apologies. I did not mean to imply that any individual specifically gave the negative rep; I have no way of knowing who did it, but based on the red dot, it was obviously done. I have not given anyone negative rep for this thread.

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I wasn't on the field, but reliable sources said that using the batterie(s) for ballast was OK'd be the inspectors before the start of the quarter finals. Then, there was a change of mind, and a call to FIRST HQ.
Didn't they have a manual handy?
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Old 16-05-2016, 13:51
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Re: A(nother) Sad Day For FIRST

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That's insane... Did nobody think it was a bad idea to use that and not something like scrap metal?
I wasn't on the field, but reliable sources said that using the batterie(s) for ballast was OK'd be the inspectors before the start of the quarter finals. Then, there was a change of mind, and a call to FIRST HQ.
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Re: A(nother) Sad Day For FIRST

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Does anyone know why in 2014 at Orlando Regional the alliance that 233 is on got 0 points in both quarter finals matches?
Team 233 coach Andy Bradley did a good interview just after the ruling. Unfortunate situation, but all teams on both alliances had good intent.

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Old 16-05-2016, 14:12
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Re: A(nother) Sad Day For FIRST

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Let's see, it was posted on the Rumor Mill forum, with a link to the source material, containing the phrase



Even being posted by a brand new account with no name and team number, there's no reason to give negative rep here.
Let's just say that posting something that the twitter account even stated the team did not want to announce until after IRI is more than enough reason to give negative rep. Spreading rumors, even on the interwebs should not be condoned.

But, hey, feel free to neg rep me for this. They are only dots after all.
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Re: A(nother) Sad Day For FIRST

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Didn't they have a manual handy?
The wording was updated after this incident so that it was clear in future years.
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Old 16-05-2016, 14:15
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Re: A(nother) Sad Day For FIRST

I'm not sure why this thread was created. Whoever posted it obviously knew they didn't want people to know about it until after IRI, but blabbed about it anyway. What happened to "keep your mouth shut"?
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Re: A(nother) Sad Day For FIRST

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Let's just say that posting something that the twitter account even stated the team did not want to announce until after IRI is more than enough reason to give negative rep.
This, If the person really is friends with a member of the team they wouldn't do this. This sort of information is for them to come out with. It's like if your friend/family member had a baby and you posted the name on facebook before they could announce it.
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Re: A(nother) Sad Day For FIRST

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Let's just say that posting something that the twitter account even stated the team did not want to announce until after IRI is more than enough reason to give negative rep. Spreading rumors, even on the interwebs should not be condoned.

But, hey, feel free to neg rep me for this. They are only dots after all.
Amen to this. It's in the rumor mill from an anonymous account linking to a Twitter post from somebody not even on 233 so I'd honestly not care about it that much. To everyone, just keep in the back of your mind that 233 might be retiring next year, and they might not. No official statement has been made. Regardless, I wish all members of the Pink team the best as they continue their journeys throughout FIRST, whether they take place on 233 or not.
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The wording was updated after this incident so that it was clear in future years.
I quoted this from a 29 Jan version of the manual.
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Re: A(nother) Sad Day For FIRST

Don't tell anyone else yet but if everything holds true, 422 will unfortunately be competing next year. Sorry.

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I quoted this from a 29 Jan version of the manual.
Of 2016?

Because this happened back in 2014
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R32 from 2014 Year of the beach ball
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No rule specifically against more than one battery on the robot. Just only one battery allowed to POWER the robot. R8 safety violation for using lead & acid for ballast. Question on rather or not robot was properly reinspected after modification. Currently inspectors are a lot more stringent documenting on re inspections because of this incident.
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Red dotting cause someone you don't know posted on Delphi? That kind of promotes Anon's and Throwaways.
All accounts are anonymous until someone feels comfortable enough to share personal information. Throwaway accounts will always be useful as long as people don't feel welcome. If someone wants to post something controversial for the sake of something that truly matters to them, but they don't want it to blow back on the team then it makes sense to make a throwaway (multi accounting isn't allowed though.)
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What red dot?
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This thread now includes:
- An anonymous report of the demise of team based on a Twitter post
- Someone calling the Twitter user a liar or a bad friend
- A tangential discussion of a DQ issued 3 seasons ago
- Someone quoting a rule from 2016 in reference to the DQ from 2014
- An argument over the ethics of giving a red dot to an anonymous report based off a Twitter post

I think this thread just won "ChiefDelphi is terrible Bingo".
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