pic: FIRST FRC Participation

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Can anyone provide insight as to what happened in 2004/05? Did some grant project fund rookies then stop support?

I want to say that was the year of the $1000 increase in registration. It was either 2004 or 2005.

/edit: Yes, the registration fee was increased by $1000 for the 2005 season.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...on+2005 +fees

[PayneTrain]

If my memory serves me correctly, the 2005 season was the first year of the modern era, but was not the first year of the modern frame perimeter. That structure has been evolving since 2000, the second year of alliance play. The increase in the registration fee also did not coincide with the move to the GWCC, but happened after the first year in the dome.

The remarkable team attrition might have been noticed by FIRST, as the FIRST VEX Challenge had its initial pilot a year later.

Originally Posted by Karthik

I want to say that was the year of the $1000 increase in registration. It was either 2004 or 2005.

/edit: Yes, the registration fee was increased by $1000 for the 2005 season.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...on+2005 +fees

I think you probably know the answer to these questions:

What was the first year teams used the IFI boards?
Did the registration fee fall down to $5000 in 2010 to coincide with the 1-time control system transaction, or was the move done independently? I have only been covering registration since 2011.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by PayneTrain

The remarkable team attrition might have been noticed by FIRST, as the FIRST VEX Challenge had its initial pilot a year later.

The FIRST Vex Challenge actually had a pilot event in 2005, at the FRC Championship. The timing had more to do with the Vex kits becoming a full fledged product line in 2005/2006 (carried in Radio Shack, rather than the Edubot kits sold directly by IFI prior to that point).

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by PayneTrain

What was the first year teams used the IFI boards?
Did the registration fee fall down to $5000 in 2010 to coincide with the 1-time control system transaction, or was the move done independently? I have only been covering registration since 2011.

The IFI control system was first used in 2000.

Yup, the fee change was based on the new policy of not supplying teams with a control system each year.

[Basel A]

Originally Posted by Karthik

I want to say that was the year of the $1000 increase in registration. It was either 2004 or 2005.

/edit: Yes, the registration fee was increased by $1000 for the 2005 season.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...on+2005 +fees

Wow, that's a really powerful experiment. Many people in the FRC community have been talking about decreasing the cost of participation, with registration being a big part of it. Usually you can only guess at these things, about how big of an impact the registration cost has, but this is a great demonstration. This chart shows exactly what happens when you raise the cost. Have to imagine it'd have an opposite effect the other way.

[Foster]

Not sure I'm reading the graph right. I see a the rookie line at 2%. So it makes sense if you add 2% to exisiting teams that existing teams goes up. But 1% die, so the existing teams should die by 1% So the overall growth should be 1%.

Granted, I'm looking at the chart, I'm confused by it. TLI5, how to read the graph.

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

Originally Posted by Foster

Not sure I'm reading the graph right. I see a the rookie line at 2%. So it makes sense if you add 2% to exisiting teams that existing teams goes up. But 1% die, so the existing teams should die by 1% So the overall growth should be 1%.

Granted, I'm looking at the chart, I'm confused by it. TLI5, how to read the graph.

I believe only the attrition rate is using the right axis. For 2015 to 2016 for example, rookie teams grew by ~400 but we also lost ~200 teams. Therefore, total teams grew by ~200 teams.