paper: Citrus Circuits 2016 Scouting System White Paper

[DuPiMan]

FTP and SQLite would have been totally acceptable tools to use, and are commonly used for this kind of project. Firebase however did for us what FTP and SQLite would have done, but also did more. Using Firebase meant that syncing data between all apps, and the server, was something that we never even had to think about. It also meant that we never had to worry about what to do when an app was offline. The list of conveniences goes on. Good question.

[tjf]

Originally Posted by DuPiMan

FTP and SQLite would have been totally acceptable tools to use, and are commonly used for this kind of project. Firebase however did for us what FTP and SQLite would have done, but also did more. Using Firebase meant that syncing data between all apps, and the server, was something that we never even had to think about. It also meant that we never had to worry about what to do when an app was offline. The list of conveniences goes on. Good question.

Thanks for the explanation, and as always fantastic work and writeup!

[marshall]

TIMD? No, more like TSIMFD!

Seriously, amazing work on this. Have you had any other teams adopt this system? Can you help with providing support if we run into issues?

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by marshall

TIMD? No, more like TSIMFD!

Seriously, amazing work on this. Have you had any other teams adopt this system? Can you help with providing support if we run into issues?

Yes, but check your harpoons at the door! Anyone who's interested should message me or "WilliamFrost" and we'll arrange more support. We can walk you through also how we organize our scouting and programming teams around this app.

I'll what I believe is the most important point about this project: whether you become more competitive, the process of organizing the programmers, designing and programming the system, managing the system in real time at an event, and training your scouts all have tremendous training benefits for the students on the team. It provides a new avenue for learning computer science on multiple platforms, and organizational management. Our scouting lead programmer is our team captain this year because he demonstrated these management skills.

[Brian Maher]

This system is fantastic, thank you for sharing! The analytics are really something else. The idea of ranking teams by compabitiility based on your own scouting data on yourself is really interesting and makes a lot of sense.

My question: how different were the rankings of teams by firstPickAbility from your actual first pick lists?

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by BMSOTM

This system is fantastic, thank you for sharing! The analytics are really something else. The idea of ranking teams by compabitiility based on your own scouting data on yourself is really interesting and makes a lot of sense.

My question: how different were the rankings of teams by firstPickAbility from your actual first pick lists?

The first pick ranking and our draft list are usually very close. We usually switch our pick list on pairwise qualitative comparisons, but no team jumps from 6th to first.

However, there's usually bigger distinctions among the teams in that pool than in the 2nd pick pool. That's where we've been happy with the initial list we get out of our scouting app. We do move teams up and down quite a bit on that list, but we find hidden gems, and we can confirm or deny some of our qualitative impressions with the data we have.

[Mike Schreiber]

I did some research on doing something similar on a budget. It doesn't appear the Kindle Fire 7 tablet has native support for bluetooth file transfer. After a bit of digging it sounds like it may be capable with side loading which you need to do to install your own app anyway, but I haven't found much as far as confirmation. Any one tried this or have a Fire that can?

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by Mike Schreiber

I did some research on doing something similar on a budget. It doesn't appear the Kindle Fire 7 tablet has native support for bluetooth file transfer. After a bit of digging it sounds like it may be capable with side loading which you need to do to install your own app anyway, but I haven't found much as far as confirmation. Any one tried this or have a Fire that can?

Great question Mike!

We are looking at expanding our scouting system in 2017, so we need more tablets. We bought 3 Kindle Fire (7?) tablets during Amazon Prime Day, the kids are doing testing with them this fall. We'll see what the bluetooth is capable of.

-Mike

[Brian Maher]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

We are looking at expanding our scouting system in 2017, so we need more tablets.

What additional data are you looking at collecting?

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by BMSOTM

What additional data are you looking at collecting?

Sorry to be elusive, but I'll let the Scouting Lead decide what to share. If we keep it close to the chest, expect all the details in our 2017 White Paper

Side note: Thanks everyone for all the positive feedback on the White Paper. The kids put in a lot of time to this documentation, this community really helps drive our students forward in their technical and communication skills.

Thanks,

-Mike

[TheBoulderite]

Other than the design of the app, this looks very similar to what my team did this year. Great job with the scouting app, I think all of your success this year shows that it works!

[Ty Tremblay]

How was the automated bluetooth syncing executed? I have limited knowledge of bluetooth, but I'm under the impression that bluetooth is a 1-to-1 communication technology. How do you manage these connections and data transfer?