paper: Citrus Circuits 2016 Scouting System White Paper

[Brian Maher]

This system is fantastic, thank you for sharing! The analytics are really something else. The idea of ranking teams by compabitiility based on your own scouting data on yourself is really interesting and makes a lot of sense.

My question: how different were the rankings of teams by firstPickAbility from your actual first pick lists?

[Citrus Dad]

Originally Posted by BMSOTM

This system is fantastic, thank you for sharing! The analytics are really something else. The idea of ranking teams by compabitiility based on your own scouting data on yourself is really interesting and makes a lot of sense.

My question: how different were the rankings of teams by firstPickAbility from your actual first pick lists?

The first pick ranking and our draft list are usually very close. We usually switch our pick list on pairwise qualitative comparisons, but no team jumps from 6th to first.

However, there's usually bigger distinctions among the teams in that pool than in the 2nd pick pool. That's where we've been happy with the initial list we get out of our scouting app. We do move teams up and down quite a bit on that list, but we find hidden gems, and we can confirm or deny some of our qualitative impressions with the data we have.

[Mike Schreiber]

I did some research on doing something similar on a budget. It doesn't appear the Kindle Fire 7 tablet has native support for bluetooth file transfer. After a bit of digging it sounds like it may be capable with side loading which you need to do to install your own app anyway, but I haven't found much as far as confirmation. Any one tried this or have a Fire that can?

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by Mike Schreiber

I did some research on doing something similar on a budget. It doesn't appear the Kindle Fire 7 tablet has native support for bluetooth file transfer. After a bit of digging it sounds like it may be capable with side loading which you need to do to install your own app anyway, but I haven't found much as far as confirmation. Any one tried this or have a Fire that can?

Great question Mike!

We are looking at expanding our scouting system in 2017, so we need more tablets. We bought 3 Kindle Fire (7?) tablets during Amazon Prime Day, the kids are doing testing with them this fall. We'll see what the bluetooth is capable of.

-Mike

[Brian Maher]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

We are looking at expanding our scouting system in 2017, so we need more tablets.

What additional data are you looking at collecting?

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by BMSOTM

What additional data are you looking at collecting?

Sorry to be elusive, but I'll let the Scouting Lead decide what to share. If we keep it close to the chest, expect all the details in our 2017 White Paper

Side note: Thanks everyone for all the positive feedback on the White Paper. The kids put in a lot of time to this documentation, this community really helps drive our students forward in their technical and communication skills.

Thanks,

-Mike

[TheBoulderite]

Other than the design of the app, this looks very similar to what my team did this year. Great job with the scouting app, I think all of your success this year shows that it works!

[Ty Tremblay]

How was the automated bluetooth syncing executed? I have limited knowledge of bluetooth, but I'm under the impression that bluetooth is a 1-to-1 communication technology. How do you manage these connections and data transfer?

[saikiranra]

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay

How was the automated bluetooth syncing executed? I have limited knowledge of bluetooth, but I'm under the impression that bluetooth is a 1-to-1 communication technology. How do you manage these connections and data transfer?

Bluetooth is actually one to many. IIRC one server can connect to 7 external devices at one time.

[William Frost]

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay

How was the automated bluetooth syncing executed? I have limited knowledge of bluetooth, but I'm under the impression that bluetooth is a 1-to-1 communication technology. How do you manage these connections and data transfer?

Originally Posted by saikiranra

Bluetooth is actually one to many. IIRC one server can connect to 7 external devices at one time.

saikiranra is correct, through the maximum number of connections is slightly more complicated. The number is usually seven, but can vary between devices. A good brief explanation can be found at http://superuser.com/questions/33276...uetooth-device.

Each of the super scout tablets (red and blue) is connected to the three scout tablets for the alliance. The scouts are able to transfer their files via this connection to the super scout. In addition, the scouts can request the competition schedule from the super scout, which is then sent from the super scout to the scout. For the technical details of how the bluetooth connection works, I would recommend looking over the Bluetooth connection code in the scout and super scout apps. Below are links to the files that control most of the Bluetooth connection.

Scout:
https://github.com/frc1678/scout-201...ectThread.java
https://github.com/frc1678/scout-201...leHandler.java
https://github.com/frc1678/scout-201...nActivity.java

Super Scout:
https://github.com/frc1678/super-201...eptThread.java
https://github.com/frc1678/super-201...cceptLoop.java

[frcguy]

Just had a chance to check out all of this. Thanks for sharing, it looks awesome! I think we might look into using it at Chezy Champs and CCC.