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Old 12-22-2016, 05:18 PM
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We’re making it official for the 2017 season. It will be against the rules to throw things from the stands or bleachers at our events. Paper airplanes count as things. As well as being a safety hazard, throwing paper airplanes can be disrespectful, depending on what is happening on the field. We probably should have put this rule in place years ago, but I hope we can now count on you to help keep our events safe and respectful.

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Re: [FRC BLOG] This isn't a Robot, Housing, and Throwing Things

For those curious here is the link to what the first part of the blog title is referencing, and what the asterisk is for.

Also shout out to 1065 and 5872 for representing Florida in the video. (If you are a Florida team and I missed you sorry)
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Re: [FRC BLOG] This isn't a Robot, Housing, and Throwing Things

Thanks Frank! Yes we all can grow up and be a little mature and show respect and gracious professionalism at FIRST events. If anyone of you are bored at the events, please bring your favorite book or coloring book and keep yourself busy!
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Re: [FRC BLOG] This isn't a Robot, Housing, and Throwing Things

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For those curious here is the link to what the first part of the blog title is referencing, and what the asterisk is for.
Beautiful video. I agree as Frank mentions in the post, that the poetry is the device that gets the message across. Thanks for linking the video for those who have yet to see it.
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Re: [FRC BLOG] This isn't a Robot, Housing, and Throwing Things

Will the enforce this any better than no seat saving?
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Will the enforce this any better than no seat saving?
It may be a little bit easier to enforce. It's a little more obvious when UFOs are spotted airborne. Identifying the originator(s) may be a little less easy than spotting violations, but a couple of announcements of "Will the persons throwing paper airplanes from Section XYZ please cease and desist before event staff arrives to enforce cleanup" ought to do the trick.
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Re: [FRC BLOG] This isn't a Robot, Housing, and Throwing Things

The bigger story here should be the video. It really is great (if you can get past the "hydraulic arms" part), its captures how powerful a tool FIRST can be for positive change, and why I support the program. I think they finally got their messaging figured out, now how do we spread this message farther.
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Re: [FRC BLOG] This isn't a Robot, Housing, and Throwing Things

It's really cute how people think that there won't be paper airplanes everywhere just because there's a rule about it now.

Maybe if FIRST had said something 6 years ago when it first happened, there was a shot at that, but at this point they're closing the stable door well after the horse has bolted
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Re: [FRC BLOG] This isn't a Robot, Housing, and Throwing Things

So does this also mean no more beach balls bouncing around the stands?
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So does this also mean no more beach balls bouncing around the stands?
They are things. So yes. No beach balls.

I'd also like them to make a point of mentioning lasers. For the past 2 years there has been a small group firing lasers around the dome. It hasn't gone unnoticed though they might think it has.

Finally - it's time to print up some signs and hang them at the entrances to the stands.

FRC Rules in the Stands
1. No throwing things.
2. No saving seats.
3. No lasers.
4. Clean up after yourselves!

Then folks who are having trouble remembering the rules can be given a gentle reminder. We shouldn't need this sort of thing, but it's pretty clear that mentors from some groups simply don't keep a close enough eye on their team members. Finally - stop giving out so many copies of the programs, etc. Have them where they can be picked up, in the pits, by people who want them. That will deprive a lot of people of their ammo.

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Re: [FRC BLOG] This isn't a Robot, Housing, and Throwing Things

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Finally - stop giving out so many copies of the programs, etc. Have them where they can be picked up, in the pits, by people who want them. That will deprive a lot of people of their ammo.
In my opinion, the programs are super useful for the members of the public who have are interested in STEM but have no experience with FIRST. They help explain what is going on. If there are fewer programs available and they are hard to find, it would do little to reduce the paper airplanes but make it harder for the totally new people to find them. This could result in more confused members of the public, and, they would be less likely to create new teams, which is the real goal here right?

That's just my 2 cents.
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They are things. So yes. No beach balls.
"It will be against the rules to throw things from the stands or bleachers at our events."
I wonder if the beach ball is originated from the floor, into the stands, if that would be permissible.
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"It will be against the rules to throw things from the stands or bleachers at our events."
I wonder if the beach ball is originated from the floor, into the stands, if that would be permissible.
What if drive teams accidentally throw stacks of paper into the stands then the people in the stands return it to them in plane form.
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What if drive teams accidentally throw stacks of paper into the stands then the people in the stands return it to them in plane form.
The drive team would probably be awarded a red card.

My point is the rule doesn't have to necessarily rule out beach balls, especially if the beach balls originate from the volunteers on the floor.
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