pic: 100% Student Built

Originally Posted by briholton

He said he didn't know because the first time they saw it was when it was uncrated at the regionals.

How do you know that was the case for his entire team? Maybe he just had bad attendence during the build season or some other reason that he didn't point out. I wouldn't trust the word of one team member on something like that. I don't doubt that something like that exists, but I'd check into it some more before I would go off believing that.

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I’m personally more favored to the engineering assisted team, but I’m going to put that aside for a second to say this:

I don’t understand why it should matter if your robot is 100% student built, 100% engineer built or somewhere in between. As long as you are Inspired (I word again) FIRST is getting its point and primary goal across.

[briholton]

Originally Posted by D.J. Fluck

How do you know that was the case for his entire team? Maybe he just had bad attendence during the build season or some other reason that he didn't point out. I wouldn't trust the word of one team member on something like that. I don't doubt that something like that exists, but I'd check into it some more before I would go off believing that.

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I’m personally more favored to the engineering assisted team, but I’m going to put that aside for a second to say this:

I don’t understand why it should matter if your robot is 100% student built, 100% engineer built or somewhere in between. As long as you are Inspired (I word again) FIRST is getting its point and primary goal across.

i appreciate your wisdom in telling me how to assure my data..... however, i did - i talked to the guys that built it. they agreed that that is what happened. such is life.

[Amanda Morrison]

Whereas these types of teams may or may not happen is not the point of this thread, nor is accusing a team or redeeming them. We all know the argument, we've all heard accusations, and we all have differing opinions. Please be tactful and respectful, both to each other, and everyone reading these forums. I'm sorry to spoil any ongoing arguments, but feel free to continue this in a PM.

This is a thread about a team that is building their robot themselves, and it's very commendable. While I agree with DJ, that the inspiration from peers in this program is very important, at the same time a student can gain a sense of pride in craftsmanship and also experience and deal with errors and problems head-on. All the mentors in the world don't do a darn thing if you don't learn anything from them. While maybe it's not ideal to some people, to others it may suit. With engineer mentorship or not, you're seeing a successful FIRST team, and that's all that matters.