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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

I also suggested this to my team at the beginning of the year, they thought it was not possible to hold all the balls with out falling over... I should show them your video. Great Job can't wait to see you guys at Nats.

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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

so basically, the only way to stop you guys would be to wack off YOUR bonus ball before you can get in position. and to do that a robot would need an autonomous mode that takes less than a second or so. ouch.
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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

Impressive Funnelbot! I have to say great jorb. <=== that was intentional

It would be nice to see a video on how your robot delivers those balls into the Ball Coral. Again, just amazing!
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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

nobody has asked the scary question yet?

are you going to use your superbot for good or evil???

in other words, which side are you going to park that thing under?

your side or your opponents side?
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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

The secret is that you must have an autonomous that blocks their alliance from knocking off the bonus ball. From there you must sacrifice yourself to by stopping them from getting in a position to catch the balls. They have casters, they can be pushes. EDIT: Oops, wrong bot, w/ or w/o caster you must have a robot that can push them /EDIT Do this and you can win. So to win you need a robot that has a faster/strong enough robot to be there alliance and keep them from the bonus ball. You need a harasser bot strong enough to push them. And it would be nice to have the other bot be able to hang. If the get all the balls most everyone is in trouble. Otherwise you need a fast robot that will keep them from dumping their load.

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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

wow! these guys are nice enough to show a photo and video of their machine weeks before the first regional

and now you are ganging up online to devise strategies against them?

Hows this for a strategy - they have a super way to capture their 18 balls when they drop - I dont see any thing to grab the 2X ball, and I dont see anything to do a chinup with

so if you want to beat them, build a machine that can outscore them - they WILL be master of the small balls on their side of the field, but there are two other ways to increase your own score.

besides, at the end of the match, if they loose, your score will be = their score, so devising a way to prevent them from scoring is a loosing strategy for you in the long run.

BTW - team 93 - nicely done!
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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

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Well either this means that you block corrals or you block bonus ball. Or could it be something else. If it is one of those two I think that we'll be alright.
blocking corrals is cheezy in my eyes but we still may use that only if we had to
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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

New Apple Corps is at it again. Great job, guys! This is an awesome design.

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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

The $64,000 question: Does it have to be dead on to catch all the balls? Or can it be off a foot or more on either side and still catch them all? You never know with autonomous mode.

Also, good bot. Hope to see you at Champs. I think you and Spark 5 would be good partners.
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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

Great job as always Team 93. If you can reliably catch & deliver all 18 balls to the HP you'll be first on many team's lists, if not a top seed.

Do you sense in autonomous if the hopper is full and drive over to your chute, or do you wait until driver control? If you can do it in autonomous you'll be even more dangerous.

Good luck this year, and see you at MWR.
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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

mindboggling... you guys are truly scary- Do you have some kind of brake or something? I can just imagine the times when your partner doesnt have an autonomous, right at 40 seconds you're going to get pounded by an opponent.. (not trying to diss you or be negative, i'm in awe, just curious if you have a device to prevent this)
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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

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what do you do if the balls get dropped before you are deployed?

I'm not trying to suggest that any robot capable of driving in a straight line during autonymous mode could render your primary function moot, just that... oh wait, that is what I'm suggesting.

uber fubar

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p.s. My last name is Olds as well. I'm sure you find this bit of minutia highly entertaining. And this post was done by a teammate of mine too lazy to setup a login, not me, i just wanted to say hi.
To be honest I do not for see balls ropping before we go under the chute, I mean if we go to ours it will take what 1 second?
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Impressive Funnelbot! I have to say great jorb. <=== that was intentional

It would be nice to see a video on how your robot delivers those balls into the Ball Coral. Again, just amazing!
Pictures and videos will be posted within a week.

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nobody has asked the scary question yet?

are you going to use your superbot for good or evil???

in other words, which side are you going to park that thing under?

your side or your opponents side?
We will have to see, however the most logical thing would be to park it under our own. However we can do both.

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wow! these guys are nice enough to show a photo and video of their machine weeks before the first regional

and now you are ganging up online to devise strategies against them?

Hows this for a strategy - they have a super way to capture their 18 balls when they drop - I dont see any thing to grab the 2X ball, and I dont see anything to do a chinup with

so if you want to beat them, build a machine that can outscore them - they WILL be master of the small balls on their side of the field, but there are two other ways to increase your own score.

besides, at the end of the match, if they loose, your score will be = their score, so devising a way to prevent them from scoring is a loosing strategy for you in the long run.

BTW - team 93 - nicely done!
Thanks Ken, your comment kinda reminded me of Andy's soap box post (which btw I had to help the old man get down from). Also thanks for putting positive imput.

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The $64,000 question: Does it have to be dead on to catch all the balls? Or can it be off a foot or more on either side and still catch them all? You never know with autonomous mode.

Also, good bot. Hope to see you at Champs. I think you and Spark 5 would be good partners.

Great job as always Team 93. If you can reliably catch & deliver all 18 balls to the HP you'll be first on many team's lists, if not a top seed.
We can be off about 6"-9" on either side. At a foot we miss 1-2 balls which is fine anyways.

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Do you sense in autonomous if the hopper is full and drive over to your chute, or do you wait until driver control? If you can do it in autonomous you'll be even more dangerous.

Good luck this year, and see you at MWR.
Thanks a lot Mike, we do not have a sensor, it would be nice however I don't think it’s needed mainly because your adding complexity to the auto mode.Looking forward to seeing you at MWR as well.

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mindboggling... you guys are truly scary- Do you have some kind of brake or something? I can just imagine the times when your partner doesnt have an autonomous, right at 40 seconds you're going to get pounded by an opponent.. (not trying to diss you or be negative, i'm in awe, just curious if you have a device to prevent this)
We do not have a brake, it was discussed, but we have no where to put it. We will probably drive around til like the 35 sec mark than move back under. It is pretty easy to position it under the release. Also we can be up to 1/1/2 feet from the wall and still catch all 18.


Thank you once again to everybody, I'll be posting many more pics and videos most likely on Thursday or Friday.
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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

Looks hot! These darn WI teams are good, I wish that stupid 269 would post pics of their bot, oh wait
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Re: pic: Team #93's robot "Tobor 7" Teaser

I want to see a match where they catch the balls from both sides. If they get under theirs...and it drops during auto mode...and the other side doesn't drop until the 45 sec. mark. I'll be watching for it. Can you get the first 18 out fast enough to be under the other ball drop at 45 sec?

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Awsome robot design....we had something like this on the drawing board, but we changed horses and went to another concept.

I still like that idea, and think you will do quite well with it.

I hope to see you at the competition.....

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