Reputations. Do they deserve more careful thought?

[JVN]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

Remember, JVN stated that he's gotten many negatives, but many more positives.

The best part is, they are mostly from the same person.
I have a negative rep-stalker... someone who I know has a personal grudge against me. It's actually kind of humorous to get -3 from them for a post, and then +20 from another person for the same post. Makes me smile.

"JVN, hated by some. Loved by others."

John

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Originally Posted by JVN

The best part is, they are mostly from the same person.
I have a negative rep-stalker... someone who I know has a personal grudge against me. It's actually kind of humorous to get -3 from them for a post, and then +20 from another person. Makes me smile.

"JVN, hated by some. Loved by others."

John

ohh ohh ohh who is it?!!

[KenWittlief]

Originally Posted by Kris Verdeyen

Do I think less of a person who can't express himself to me? Absolutely. Being able to communicate is not an "insignificant thing".

not everyone can put their ideas into words clearly -

and not everyone can type with their fingers - before you slam someone for their ability to communicate stop and consider, they might be strapped in a wheelchair and typing with a pencil between their teeth

or english could be their 4th language (I never correct someones english unless I can do so in their native language)

no one likes a spelling or grammer nazi :^)

[Brandon Martus]

Originally Posted by Steve W

What I really like is not those who give me points but those who take time to tell me why. This is a good indicator to me that I am not just talking but how what I say affects others. If I deserve neg points then let them fly but please let me know why.

I'm seriously considering making the comment required. But, I know that people will just put '.' or spaces or something. Maybe a 3 or 4 X-letter-word minimum or something. :shrug:

Brandon, continue your great work here and thanks for the opportunty to be a part of the Chief Delphi Forums.

Thank you for participating. It'd be a blank website without all of you.

[computhief263]

Truthfully i dont see a point of rep. Nor do i see its usefulness. Therefore i dont use it at all.
Different ppl use rep for different purposes, if you use it as a way of showing u agree/disagree w/ someone or as a way to show ur respect for some one and thier opinion...then rock on! I think thats a perfect reason to use it.
But its the ppl that use rep as a popularity contest or as a way to flame another cd member or just giving rep to a person b/c that person gave them positive/negative rep, that i dont agree w/. And b/c thats mostly what i saw at the begining of the rep system i felt no reason to use rep...and still dont

Originally Posted by Marygrace

If i got good rep pts, w00t (<---that one is for tom), if bad, well, that sux

....ROFL w00t (yay mary, my master plan worked)

[c-squared_2006]

Reputation is a delicate subject. They may change the way you make friends completely. If one carries the rep for being dependent then the person will be able to gain more trust. But if another person has the rep for being a gossipy person, I'm certainly not going to trust telling them my inner most thoughts. Reputations are basically social standards, we all are going to conform some what no matter what, in order to keep things operating smoothly. Or else the person who refuses to be polite, considerate, or something is just a bug in the program. I personally like to think of reputation as being something to treasure. Because it really does affect what people think of you. My grammar is not great nor is my spelling, but English is my second language. Sorry!

[Madison]

Originally Posted by c-squared_2006

Reputation is a delicate subject.

I think we can forgive you because you're new to this website, but we're discussing the reputation system of rating posts that's a part of the forums we use here; not reputation in any social sense.

[Kris Verdeyen]

Originally Posted by KenWittlief

not everyone can put their ideas into words clearly -

I understand, but that doesn't change the fact that a first impression is vital. The largest percentage of those who cannot put their ideas into words are just lazy. If I meet a person who mispronounces simple words, or calls me "dog" when I first meet him, it says something about him.

Of course, as you pointed out, first impressions are not always all they're cracked up to be, but they are how you'll judge (and be judged by) 99% of the people you'll meet in your life, and therefore aren't insignificant.

Originally Posted by KenWittlief

no one likes a spelling or grammer nazi

It's spelled grammar.

[Ryan M.]

Originally Posted by Brandon Martus

I'm seriously considering making the comment required. But, I know that people will just put '.' or spaces or something. Maybe a 3 or 4 X-letter-word minimum or something. :shrug:

Please do make the comment required. I find it annoying to recieve a rep (good or bad) and then have no idea what they though was so 'bad' or 'good' about that post. I don't think it would be a huge issue with people putting spaces or random letters in. Many of the people I recieve reps from are people who are people who spend lots of time here and are helpful contributers. I believe that if you forced them to put something in the box, they would take the time to.

[MikeDubreuil]

Originally Posted by Texan

Please do make the comment required. I find it annoying to recieve a rep (good or bad) and then have no idea what they though was so 'bad' or 'good' about that post. I don't think it would be a huge issue with people putting spaces or random letters in. Many of the people I recieve reps from are people who are people who spend lots of time here and are helpful contributers. I believe that if you forced them to put something in the box, they would take the time to.

Another feature I think would be benifcial is at the top of each post you indicated how many positive or negative points a post received. This would encourage people to give positive points for those that don't alway recieve them. At the same time, it would cut back on someone receiving too many negative points for a post. This could be a check and balance feature to make sure posts aren't receiving unnecessary rep points, for instance chit-chat posts between friends.

[Ryan M.]

Originally Posted by MikeDubreuil

Another feature I think would be benifcial is at the top of each post you indicated how many positive or negative points a post received. This would encourage people to give positive points for those that don't alway recieve them. At the same time, it would cut back on someone receiving too many negative points for a post. This could be a check and balance feature to make sure posts aren't receiving unnecessary rep points, for instance chit-chat posts between friends.

There could be your a dot () next to, say, the "Add to rep." button that is either green, red, or not there. Hovering over it could tell you the number of positive/negative rep points given to that post.

I like the idea, but I want to just state now that if you happen to think of displaying the names of people who have given reps to a post, don't. (Just being pro-active. )

[KenWittlief]

The largest percentage of those who cannot put their ideas into words are just lazy.

how can you say that? esp on a forum when you cant see or hear the person you are communicating with?

there are many forms of learning disabilities and communcation disabilities that people suffer from - and for them to post on a public forum is esp couragious - then to have someone come back and say NOTHING about the content of their message, or to NOT answer their questions, but to slam them for their speeling gramer form font #of posts in a row is a real blow to their self image and confidence

if ur an intllgnt prsn u cn get the meaning fm vry crptc frms of comnction

rght?

[KenWittlief]

Originally Posted by c-squared_2006

Reputation is a delicate subject. They may change the way you make friends completely....

I think your post is right on the money - whether you meant to or not, you have grasped what the rep system is about on this forum

when someone earns a bad reputation on this forum its very easy for people to go back and search that persons posts, and see the tone or attitude of the way they communcate

once someone has checked out a persons background to see why they have the rep they do it, then yes, it absolutely WILL affect the way they react to your posts.

The Chief Delphi forum IS a social interaction - its a new and unique form of human interaction too, because you cant see the persons face you are communcating with, and a ton of expressive information is missing. Its very easy for ten different people to read a post and come away with different impressions, because those visual communcation clues are absent.

[Kris Verdeyen]

Originally Posted by KenWittlief

how can you say that? esp on a forum when you cant see or hear the person you are communicating with?

Because I didn't say, "everyone", I said "the largest percentage", which is true. There are many many more people on this forum who obscure worthless, inane statements with bad grammar and spelling than those who do so when they have something worthwhile to say.

Originally Posted by KenWittlief

if ur an intllgnt prsn u cn get the meaning fm vry crptc frms of comnction

Yes, I can usually buy a vowel or two and throw it in the right place. But if the person who really wanted to communicate something to me had checked their spelling in the first place, I would believe more readily that they actually wanted to know the answer, which would lead me to give a more thoughtful response back. If the question looks like it took two seconds worth of thought to come up with, why should I spend ten minutes writing out a well-reasoned response?

All that said, I do understand that there are many learning and physical disablilities that can impede communication. However, I do not think that people who have the capability to express themselves should get a free pass to be lazy because someone else in the world has a disability.

[Pamela]

Originally Posted by Brandon Martus
I'm seriously considering making the comment required. But, I know that people will just put '.' or spaces or something. Maybe a 3 or 4 X-letter-word minimum or something. :shrug

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I think that this would be an excellent idea to put in place. I said the same thing in another thread about the same subject awhile back, but making people stop and think about exactly why they are giving out Reputation points (or taking them away) will help put an end to abuse of the reputation point system. People are always more logical when they are forced to stop for a minute and really consider what they are about to do.