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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

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That is approximately the CIM motors free speed. The motors are operating under load, so the actual output RPM is going to be something far lower than that. Additionally, if you're using the FIRST provided circuit breakers, the motors will draw more than 40A under load at a speed considerably lower than 5200 RPM, were they ever to go that fast.

If your robot were traveling 35 MPH, it'd be able to cross a football field in six seconds. Can it?
We did have trouble tripping the breakers. The first time we tried it out we only had one CIM per gearbox, but we added two more. The road we tested on had a slight hill, so if we started off in first gear and shifted into second it did fine. As for the football field in 6 seconds, it would be close. I need to find a radar gun somewhere.
I admit that it isn't practical and we wont use this setup on our robot next year (most likely), but it sure is fun.
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

Is it FIRST legal? I am assuming not because of the air tank you used.

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o man i thought the black tank was for the Nirtous Oxide...darnet that would have been cool
Electric motors....nitrous oxide? They would get more power out of putting NOS stickers on their bot than actually putting a nitrous tank on it. Because all the NOS tank would do would be weigh down the bot .
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

This looks like something I would want to do in the summer in my free time. Yay for using math calculations to figure out speed We used the long equations mentioned so we could gear our robot for ~12-15 Ft/S this season But heck, 35 MPH is insane.
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

try a bigger battery, like 24 volts. That may change some stuff. Also you may want to impliment a cooling system if you haven't already.
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

In 2004 for some reason someone thought 4:1 would be a good ratio to gear down the CIMs to the 12" skyway wheels. The bot moved all right, but it sounded angry. ugh... that thing was hard enough to control with a 13:1 gear down, I would have hated to try to drive it at 4:1... 2 side wheels, and a castor at each corner...

Very nice to see something as just proof of concept.
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

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Is it FIRST legal? I am assuming not because of the air tank you used.



Electric motors....nitrous oxide? They would get more power out of putting NOS stickers on their bot than actually putting a nitrous tank on it. Because all the NOS tank would do would be weigh down the bot .

Hey some of our team members decided it would be funny to put NOS stickers on our robot, so we have NOS.
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

Really James, don't let the resource officer find out about that,the speed limit on that road is 25 mph. You could get a ticket. Just think if you were given a speeding ticket for breaking the speed limit with a robot!
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

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Electric motors....nitrous oxide? They would get more power out of putting NOS stickers on their bot than actually putting a nitrous tank on it. Because all the NOS tank would do would be weigh down the bot .
Or they could just open a large dump valve to spray the nitrous backwards, kinda like using a fire extinguisher to create propulsion, I mean, with a full tank, it'll be some high compression there.

Or use it to fuel a rocket engine! Just a matter of heating the stuff right.
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

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Or they could just open a large dump valve to spray the nitrous backwards, kinda like using a fire extinguisher to create propulsion, I mean, with a full tank, it'll be some high compression there.

Or use it to fuel a rocket engine! Just a matter of heating the stuff right.
That would be cool, a 35mph bomb/rocket
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That would be cool, a 35mph bomb/rocket
Sounds Awesome, I want in on it!
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

I was wondering, how controllable is it at high speeds? How do you keep it driving straight, or do you just drive this in an open area? And most importantly, how fast does it accelerate from 0-35mph?
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

I have a Mabuchi RS 750SH motor (bigger than the FP but still maybe 1/2 size of CIM) sitting on my desk that I pulled out of an old Makita Drill. I was thinking I'd either build an RC car around it or put it in a car I have. How do you think I should gear that in a ~9lb car? How fast could I get it to go do you think?
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

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I was wondering, how controllable is it at high speeds? How do you keep it driving straight, or do you just drive this in an open area? And most importantly, how fast does it accelerate from 0-35mph?
It's hard to control when it starts bouncing around on the pavement. There's only one caster on the front and it fell off after a while. Acceleration is pretty good in first gear, but when I put it into second it takes a while to get the rpm's up.
We like to use that big pneumatics tank on prototypes because it lasts so long. It was just sitting around in the shop, so I wouldn't be suprised if it was from 2000.
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

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try a bigger battery, like 24 volts. That may change some stuff. Also you may want to impliment a cooling system if you haven't already.
Cooling system? With it being as open as it is and running at 30+ MPH, I think they should get enough air flow to sufficiently cool everything.
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Re: pic: 35 MPH Prototype

Its cool and all..... but when I see a robot: tipping the scales at over 130 lb,with battery and all; using only two CIM motors/side and no liquid nitrogen or any other cooling implement that can turn the motors into superconductors; and still do 35 miles an hour while using 40 amp breakers. WOW that is the day I shave my head.
But aside form that is it shiggidy shweet to say "I have a 35 mph robot!"
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