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Re: Hangin' Around

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I am the last person that can judge the game design committee, but in my opinion this game lacks creativity. It looks like they just collected a bunch of ideas and rules from past FIRST games and made a mixture out of them. The point system, the ways to earn points (1 for a ball in the lower goal, 3 for a ball in the upper goal, points for parking on platform, 10 for auto winner.)
Maybe this was the intention of the game committee (to take ideas from FRC games and implement them in vex), but if not, I think that the game is just very uncreative and copies a lot of the ideas from "Aim High".

(This is just my opinion...I do not know why they have chosen these rules and what they want to achieve with this game, and therefore everything I have wrote above might just be a pile of nonsense.)
I find it interesting that you say this. Yes, some of the aspects are similar, but this has a rotating platform and objects that are like, 4 times as big as the robots. I don't remember ever having "attack of the jumbo ball" in FRC!
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Re: Hangin' Around

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I find it interesting that you say this. Yes, some of the aspects are similar, but this has a rotating platform and objects that are like, 4 times as big as the robots. I don't remember ever having "attack of the jumbo ball" in FRC!
Ooooh!!! Ideas!!!

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Re: Hangin' Around

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Ooooh!!! Ideas!!!

/me furiously writes notes to self....

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That would be pretty fun...
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Re: Hangin'-A-Round -- Official Game Discussion

The game seems very interesting. I love the spinning platform but what if it gets spun while a robot is on it?
I can here it now "looks like team 2068 gets the points for a chin up wait, team 3036 bumps the platform ooo team 2068 falls.

so how bout that ten motor rule?
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Re: Hangin'-A-Round -- Official Game Discussion

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The game seems very interesting. I love the spinning platform but what if it gets spun while a robot is on it?
I can here it now "looks like team 2068 gets the points for a chin up wait, team 3036 bumps the platform ooo team 2068 falls.

so how bout that ten motor rule?
The spinning platform is what makes it fun! Robots are going to have to be nimble or lucky in order to hang, because the odds are that you won't be coming at the bar directly head-on. I predict a class of robots, whom I officially dub the Hellraiser, whose sole goal is to defend the platform against opposing hangers. Man, I'm going to be stewing on this design until February!

One thing I noticed:

http://www.vexlabs.com/vex-robotics-field-parts.shtml

Obviously, the field design has changed significantly from the Half-Pipe Hustle field (which was not anticipated to change for some time). But note just below the picture: IFI is replacing the fields for those who invested in a full FVC field from last season. Now that is nice of 'em.

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Re: Hangin'-A-Round -- Official Game Discussion

Does the platform just spin in the middle, it's not movable around the field correct?

*Can't wait*
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Re: Hangin'-A-Round -- Official Game Discussion

Anyone else already think up deisgns? I know I sure have.
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Re: Hangin'-A-Round -- Official Game Discussion

My team is brand new so I can't compare it to last year's competition, but I absolutely love it. There are so many different aspects to the challenge, so many different ways to earn points. In particular I love having a ball larger than the robot, and a bar to hang from way taller than the robot. Increasing the motor limit to 10 via y-cables was an unexpected suprise.

I'm almost entirely sure but just checking, pneumatics are still illegal? (They really ought to be legal, they'd be so amazingly fun!)

And another question from a rookie - any idea when the playing field will be available to purchase?

Nicely done FIRST, i'm psyched.
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Re: Hangin'-A-Round -- Official Game Discussion

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My team is brand new so I can't compare it to last year's competition, but I absolutely love it. There are so many different aspects to the challenge, so many different ways to earn points. In particular I love having a ball larger than the robot, and a bar to hang from way taller than the robot. Increasing the motor limit to 10 via y-cables was an unexpected suprise.

I'm almost entirely sure but just checking, pneumatics are still illegal? (They really ought to be legal, they'd be so amazingly fun!)

And another question from a rookie - any idea when the playing field will be available to purchase?

Nicely done FIRST, i'm psyched.
I would guess that you could purchase it online, but beware of the price, it will most likely be pretty expensive. There should be plans to build a "cheap" field of stuff you can get at like Lowe's or Home Depot. I just read part of the rules and it says it will be in Appendix 6.
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Re: Hangin'-A-Round -- Official Game Discussion

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Anyone else already think up deisgns? I know I sure have.
I have done a bit 'o that too... funny thing is, we don't have a FVC team.
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Re: Hangin'-A-Round -- Official Game Discussion

I've already designed a robot in my head broken it in my head and fixed too

Any one though of having a defensive mechanism that could spin the platform?
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Re: Hangin'-A-Round -- Official Game Discussion

Also because the field is flat Its going to allow for faster robot because you do not have climb a slope

Autonomous drag races anyone?
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Re: Hangin'-A-Round -- Official Game Discussion

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Any one though of having a defensive mechanism that could spin the platform?
Yeah, it's called a lowered front bumper :-p

I'm psyched for this game. I have to, once more, give two big thumbs up to the FVC GDC for integrating easy scoring opportunities along with more difficult scoring opportunities, a maneuverable field, and some little twists (along with some old FRC fun) into this years game. It's going to be fun, and easy to watch

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Re: Hangin'-A-Round -- Official Game Discussion

I think that this game is going to be a lot of fun.
It does seem kinda lik 2004 FRC all over game with a twist of 2006 FRC.
That huge ball is going to be interesting to handle...
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Re: Hangin'-A-Round -- Official Game Discussion

wonder if anyone is just gonna try and pick up the atlas ball. that would be fun to watch.
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