pic: Height on top of a tube

[mluckham]

We took plywood and three mentors on a tube and it didn't pop. That would be pretty close to the weight of 3 robots but it was less then 4 inches.

You must have younger mentors - the older ones are correspondingly heavier

If 3 mentors were on TWO tubes laid side-by-side, would they be higher than 4 inches then?

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by mluckham

You must have younger mentors - the older ones are correspondingly heavier

If 3 mentors were on TWO tubes laid side-by-side, would they be higher than 4 inches then?

This is my very first Rack 'N' Roll laugh so hard you get the hiccups quote.
Sad thing is, it's true.

[Jeff Rodriguez]

As per team update #1

Originally Posted by Section 7.3.6, Rule <G56>

The sentence “ROBOTS score bonus points at the end of the match if they are entirely in their HOME ZONE, not in contact with any element of the field (carpet, alliance station, goal, etc.) and the lowest point of the ROBOT is higher than 4 inches and/or 10 inches above the carpeted field surface” has been changed to “ROBOTS score bonus points at the end of the match if they are entirely in their HOME ZONE, not in contact with any element of the field (carpet, alliance station, goal, etc. - note that for the purposes of this rule, GAME PIECES are considered field elements) and the lowest point of the ROBOT is higher than 4 inches and/or 12 inches above the carpeted field surface.”

So, this would be illegal.
Hmm, now what?

[65_Xero_Huskie]

Originally Posted by Brandon Holley

i recall reading a rule in which it referred to the tubes as scoring objects and not part of the field...let me see if i can find it

Just changed in team update.

7.3.6

Not allowed to sit on tube. almost every team hates to hear this

[Mike Norton]

<G08> Obtaining GAME PIECES - ROBOTS may obtain GAME PIECES via any of the following methods:Accepting a KEEPER prior to the start of the match as detailed in Rule <G04>Picking up RINGERS from the opposing ALLIANCE HOME ZONE that were placed there prior to the start of the match Grasping RINGERS or SPOILERS that have been placed in the CHUTE by the HUMAN
PLAYER Picking up RINGERS or SPOILERS from the playing field surface
Removing a SPOILER from a HANGING position on the RACK


if a tube is a field element then you could not grab it. do to rule

G33> Field interaction - ROBOTS may push or react against any elements of the field, provided there is no damage or disruption of the field elements. ROBOTS may not grab, grasp, grapple, or attach to any field structure. If a ROBOT violates this rule, the head referee will give one warning. If the referee determines that the TEAM is disregarding the warning, their ROBOT will be disabled for the remainder of the match.

So the tube is a game piece and would fall under those rules and not the element rules.


So if you drop one tube on another, that is not herding because you only had one tube on your robot at a time. then if you climb on one tube you still have not touched both tubes this will get you up over the 12"

unless they make a new rule I think this would work.


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[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by 65_Xero_Huskie

Just changed in team update.

7.3.6

Not allowed to sit on tube. almost every team hates to hear this

And every Referee loves to hear this cause it means less time between matches seeing if a robot is floating at the right height on a tube, and the field reset crew loves to hear this cause this means less chance to break a tube/ less time to reset the field.

Oh well.

[overlord]

Personally, I feel this rule is a good one because it will create less controversy. Plus it will challenge us more to create robots that will be able to get those extra bonus points.