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Re: pic: Basic chassis done

I'm just curious as to why you are running dual wheels in the back.

There is no additional traction gained, the load is more spread out but a single wheel is plenty strong.
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Re: pic: Basic chassis done

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I'm just curious as to why you are running dual wheels in the back.

There is no additional traction gained, the load is more spread out but a single wheel is plenty strong.
Actually you have less traction because there is less ground pressure.
Looks nice and clean
How much does it weigh..it looks heavy
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Re: pic: Basic chassis done

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Actually you have less traction because there is less ground pressure.
Less pressure over a greater area. Friction force calculations go as the normal force times the coefficient of friction. Area is not used in the calculation of friction.

So why extra wide wheels in the back?
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...So why extra wide wheels in the back?
one upside of having a large surface area is that the traction material will wear more slowly than a narrower wheel; more surface area means the forces are more widely distributed.

Also, while friction is not dependant on surface area, traction can be, under the right circumstances. for example, back in 2002 when you where allowed to lift 180# goals, teams would often tear up carpet fibers; the teams with narrow, high traction tires more than those with larger surface areas. by increasing the contact area, you spread the force around, so an individual carpet fiber is less likely to fail. more surface area, more carpet fibers sharing a given load.
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Re: pic: Basic chassis done

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one upside of having a large surface area is that the traction material will wear more slowly than a narrower wheel; more surface area means the forces are more widely distributed.

Also, while friction is not dependant on surface area, traction can be, under the right circumstances. for example, back in 2002 when you where allowed to lift 180# goals, teams would often tear up carpet fibers; the teams with narrow, high traction tires more than those with larger surface areas. by increasing the contact area, you spread the force around, so an individual carpet fiber is less likely to fail. more surface area, more carpet fibers sharing a given load.
You guessed it! It keeps us from having to repair the treads on the IFI wheels, we saw teams having to fix them frequently, last year we used this setup and never repaired one! Even though calculations show we loose some traction, we have not had a problem pushing everybody around. Plus it just plain looks cool!
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Actually you have less traction because there is less ground pressure.
Looks nice and clean
How much does it weigh..it looks heavy
Right now it weighs 45lbs but have yet to "cheese" it
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