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Originally Posted by Jim Meyer

The only rule left to be fixed is the possession of more than one tube at at time rule. It should be reworded to prohibit intentional posession of more than one tube at at time. I just find it really silly that if a tube is accidentally thrown onto a robot, and it can't be removed, it puts them out of commission for the entire match. I saw it happen to 330 at IRI, it was very disheartening.

Yeah, it happens. At least twice at IRI. And I wondered why with all those great machines, no one tried to have their alliance partner remove the ringer for them?

I don't think that it would be too hard to judge either. I'd rater have a ref make a tough call every once in a blue moon than the way things played out this year.

Almost every double-ringer possession could be considered unintentional. Why would anyone want to put a ringer on a place where it cannot be shaken off? Flags are the usual culprit, but sometimes the ringer slips down around the bot's arm. That human player didn't intend to throw the ringer around the flag, so why not let it go? Your alliance partner didn't intend to drop the ringer and have it miss the spider leg, and bounce off onto your robot. Intent - wanting to do it - simply has no part in the decision. Every call would have to be, "Well, we don't think they wanted that ringer on their flag, so no call." It would totally eliminate the rule.

If the rule is eliminated, then there is nothing to prevent a robot from collecting up all the ringers of the opposing alliance and not allow them to score. That probably was the GDC's intention (there's that word again) for the rule. But you can't dismiss accidental possession without gutting the rule.