pic: Game hint

[GeoffP]

Maybe a complex version of laser tag with a capture the flag objective? a win/loose game would be unlikely though because penalty points would have to be assessed real time.

[BanksKid]

are therre ant threads longer thin this one?

[T3_1565]

Originally Posted by BanksKid

are therre ant threads longer thin this one?

lol probably this one has only been open for a week or so (6 days actually) so I bet ones are out there that are longer. (now getting this many posts this fast, it probably takes the cake )

As for laser tag, I think it would be cool, but Interference is still a huge problem and how would you play laser capture the flag???

[Mark McLeod]

Originally Posted by BanksKid

are therre ant threads longer thin this one?

The longest threads are in the Games/Trivia sub-forum.
Word association is at 9,247 posts

[jerry w]

Originally Posted by Beth Sweet

Ok folks, I have it on very good authority how this game piece is going to be used. Please pay close attention to the directions, otherwise, yours will not work properly:

1: You're going to need 2 blank sheets of white paper and a pencil. A pen will not do.
2: You need to be in a location where you will not be interrupted. You will have very limited time once you start.
3: Sit down at a large table, you will need to spread out
4: Take your game piece sent to you in the mail. Place the piece front side up on the table, and drape the first piece of paper over it like a tablecloth
5: Making sure that the paper stays in place, take your pencil and holding it horizontally, rub it across the paper back and forth from one side of the board to the other until you get a full scale drawing
6: Turn the board piece upside down and do the same with the other piece of paper
7: Now this step is very important. Take your 2 sheets of paper and 2 pieces of tape, and hang the papers on your door or on your cubicle. You now have artwork to remind you of all of the fun you had anticipating the 2008 game.

Enjoy the water game!

PS. What did you think you were going to get from the non-techy!?

now this is one of the best posts so far! it focuses on what we have in hand instead of wishing that the board would do fantastic things.

i have already posted 4 clues.
anyone who is serious about solving this puzzle needs to examine the board.
CLUE# 5
the programmers might best like this clue. on the robot controller the digital inputs are the most used connections for feedback devices. we often come close to using all these inputs. so why would first design a board with 4 ouputs?
only a single remote can be detected at any time. thus only a single output line will pulse. this provides 4 pieces of information. it takes only 2 bits to hold 4 different values. the board should have 2 signal lines if the robot controller is to use this IR detector.

therefore, this will not be on the robot. we should try to determine what field-device could be activated by the 100 ms pulse from this board. there must be 4 gates, or 4 containers, or 4 of something.

jerry w

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod

The longest threads are in the Games/Trivia sub-forum.
Word association is at 9,247 posts

On my poker forum we have a thread with 258,904 posts, so far.

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Originally Posted by jerry w

now this is one of the best posts so far! it focuses on what we have in hand instead of wishing that the board would do fantastic things.

i have already posted 4 clues.
anyone who is serious about solving this puzzle needs to examine the board.
CLUE# 5
the programmers might best like this clue. on the robot controller the digital inputs are the most used connections for feedback devices. we often come close to using all these inputs. so why would first design a board with 4 ouputs?
only a single remote can be detected at any time. thus only a single output line will pulse. this provides 4 pieces of information. it takes only 2 bits to hold 4 different values. the board should have 2 signal lines if the robot controller is to use this IR detector.

therefore, this will not be on the robot. we should try to determine what field-device could be activated by the 100 ms pulse from this board. there must be 4 gates, or 4 containers, or 4 of something.

jerry w

I do believe you are missing something here.

While it is true that the reciever board we got can only read 1 signal at a time, and that there 4 different types of signals that can be read, there are 5 possible conditions coming out of the reciever.

And they are: Out0=on,Out1=on,Out2=on,Out3=on, and no signal recieved. Therefore 2 bits will not cover all of the possible outputs from the board.

[coolbotz]

Originally Posted by jerry w

now this is one of the best posts so far! it focuses on what we have in hand instead of wishing that the board would do fantastic things.

i have already posted 4 clues.
anyone who is serious about solving this puzzle needs to examine the board.
CLUE# 5
the programmers might best like this clue. on the robot controller the digital inputs are the most used connections for feedback devices. we often come close to using all these inputs. so why would first design a board with 4 ouputs?
only a single remote can be detected at any time. thus only a single output line will pulse. this provides 4 pieces of information. it takes only 2 bits to hold 4 different values. the board should have 2 signal lines if the robot controller is to use this IR detector.

therefore, this will not be on the robot. we should try to determine what field-device could be activated by the 100 ms pulse from this board. there must be 4 gates, or 4 containers, or 4 of something.

jerry w

Yeah its much more likely that we have 4 spare outputs. Right?.
You assume that we're using the same FRC controller. If the robot were the IR transmitter there would still need to be an IR encoding board or each team will need to write code to encode the IR signals.

[Syncopation]

As per new email from FIRST:

42.349905

-71.076072

342.242026

What does it mean?

EDIT: The first thing I thought of was a set of lat/longitude coordinates. Using the first two, + being north on the first and - being west on the second, I get Copley Square in Boston, right in front of the John Hancock Tower.

However, probably just some settings for the IR sensor... but who knows?

[Nuttyman54]

342.24 as an elevation measurement....
342.24 inches = 28.52 feet
342.24 cm = 11.23 feet

the elevation of Boston is ~19 feet above sea level, so either one of those is plausible for the ground level of Copley Square

EDIT: Copley Sq is about 16 feet above sea level, so it's not the ground elevation. HOWEVER, if you look at the satelite view in Google Maps, it appears to be pointing DIRECTLY at a statue or post of some sort. This could be the elevation of the top of the statue, a plaque on the statue....anyone want to go take a look? (I would, but I'm in California at the present time)

EDIT #2: Statue appears to be of John Singleton Copley, the square's namesake. Famous for his paintings, parents were traders. Theres more on his wiki page. Hint could also just as easily involve the physical statue attributes, or his name (Singletons anyone?)

EDIT#3: Copley Square is the official finish line for the Boston Marathon (Credit to Ruth of 1735 for this one)

[T3_1565]

wow.... are you guys all physic... that was exactly the same things said in the email blast thread lmao

[Nuttyman54]

Discussion about the second hint has moved here
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=60297

[Mr. Freeman]

Originally Posted by Turtlecoach

d. IR receiver might be “listening” to the goal to determine where a scoring element (ball, block, hoop, etc…) needs to be deposited. Individual goals might have four bins, the IR transmitter at the gate would instruct the robot which of the four bins the element needs to be dropped into. How well the robot fulfills the instruction will determine how many points you score.

I think this is most likely.
I believe this will follow two rules, kind of like the camera has in the past.
1. I highly doubt that this board is going to be mission-critical.
2. It'll be nice if you have it, but some teams will not have the ability to make it work. Therefore, any advantages gained from having it must not be so large as to guarantee a win.

I'm thinking something like what turtlecoach described above.
Example 1: there are four identical bins, each with a transmitter on them that you have to deposit balls into. One or two of the four bins has the transmitter active. Depositing balls into the one or two transmitter-active bins scores you 5 points/ball. Depositing balls into any other bin scores you 2 points/ball. Specific point values notwithstanding.

Example 2: 4 identical bins, each with a transmitter. Each bin is numbered, the numbers remain identical throughout every match. (I.E. bin #1 will always be the bin closest to the blue alliance station)
They all start transmitting the same, coded signal. This signal will identify a particular bin. Depositing balls into the indicated bin will result in more points than depositing balls into any other bin.

Sorry if I repeated anything that's already been said. I didn't read all 41 pages before posting, just the first and last few.

[jerry w]

Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur

I do believe you are missing something here.

While it is true that the reciever board we got can only read 1 signal at a time, and that there 4 different types of signals that can be read, there are 5 possible conditions coming out of the reciever.

And they are: Out0=on,Out1=on,Out2=on,Out3=on, and no signal recieved. Therefore 2 bits will not cover all of the possible outputs from the board.

oops
i knew this was a weak clue but forgot why. it doesnt invalidate the conclusion. however, having 3 digital inputs is not much better than 4.

jerry w

[caraddicted101]

This might have been pointed out earlier in the thread, but i thought i would say it myself...2004 game - there was a LED receiver that was used in auto. mode. I want to say that this is a re-try of that? but with a more sophisticated device?