Go to Post You only really ever need 2 things in your tool box: A Hammer to separate things that shouldn't be together, and Duct Tape to put things together that shouldn't be apart. - Dave_222 [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > ChiefDelphi.com Website > Extra Discussion
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 27-12-2007, 16:09
Andrew Schuetze's Avatar
Andrew Schuetze Andrew Schuetze is offline
499 Founder / Alamo FTC & FLL AP
no team
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 689
Andrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond repute
pic: AM Supershifter mount / cntr axle saddle rev 3

Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 27-12-2007, 16:15
=Martin=Taylor= =Martin=Taylor= is offline
run the trap!!!
FRC #0100 (The Wild Hat Society)
Team Role: Human Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Bezerkeley, California
Posts: 1,255
=Martin=Taylor= has a reputation beyond repute=Martin=Taylor= has a reputation beyond repute=Martin=Taylor= has a reputation beyond repute=Martin=Taylor= has a reputation beyond repute=Martin=Taylor= has a reputation beyond repute=Martin=Taylor= has a reputation beyond repute=Martin=Taylor= has a reputation beyond repute=Martin=Taylor= has a reputation beyond repute=Martin=Taylor= has a reputation beyond repute=Martin=Taylor= has a reputation beyond repute=Martin=Taylor= has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: AM Supershifter mount / cntr axle saddle rev 3

I sure hope you aren’t expecting to machine that out of a solid block. If you can find a piece of boxed aluminum the right size it shouldn't be that hard though.
__________________
"Cooperation; because life is a team sport"
-Philip J. Fry
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 28-12-2007, 02:57
artdutra04's Avatar
artdutra04 artdutra04 is offline
VEX Robotics Engineer
AKA: Arthur Dutra IV; NERD #18
FRC #0148 (Robowranglers)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Greenville, TX
Posts: 3,078
artdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: AM Supershifter mount / cntr axle saddle rev 3

Is this going to be milled on a conventional milling machine? Or will it be fabricated via another method? (I'm assuming that it's going to be milled, due to the lack of bend radaii on the edges that would be there if fabricated from sheet metal (via laserjet, waterjet, or turret/punch) and then bent up.)

If it is going to be fabricated via a conventional [CNC] milling machine, then why make it such an odd shape when you can make it more "squareish" to make it easier (and faster) to mill?

(E.g. leave the entire face-mounting side square, and mill two pockets in it (one to the side of the axle, one underneath).
__________________
Art Dutra IV
Robotics Engineer, VEX Robotics, Inc., a subsidiary of Innovation First International (IFI)
Robowranglers Team 148 | GUS Robotics Team 228 (Alumni) | Rho Beta Epsilon (Alumni) | @arthurdutra

世上无难事,只怕有心人.

Last edited by artdutra04 : 28-12-2007 at 03:06.
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 28-12-2007, 09:31
Andrew Schuetze's Avatar
Andrew Schuetze Andrew Schuetze is offline
499 Founder / Alamo FTC & FLL AP
no team
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 689
Andrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond reputeAndrew Schuetze has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: AM Supershifter mount / cntr axle saddle rev 3

Version 1 was very much a square block. It came in pretty heavy so I then reworked the design to reduce weight. I am now considering a design to make this a two piece - bolt together component for ease of milling. In fact, I realized that I don't need the bearing on the transmission side of things as the shaft is supported by the exact same bearing coming out of the AM transmission. I am also considering not bolting to all four through bolts on the transmission. Anybody have any thoughts as to the strength of just bolting to the AM supershifter with just two bolts
This will take me a few days to design as I have to get back to my duties of designing a new closet for the bedroom. (Cut the lumber yesterday) Need to finish before FIRST season or else
__________________
APS

Founder FRC 499
Parent alumni FRC 2745 & 4219
Co-Coach FTC 4549 & 6407
Alamo FTC Affiliate Partner
Alamo FLL Affiliate Partner
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 28-12-2007, 14:34
Elgin Clock's Avatar
Elgin Clock Elgin Clock is offline
updates this status less than FB!
AKA: the one who "will break into your thoughts..."
FRC #0237 (Black Magic)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: May 2001
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: H20-Town, Connecticut
Posts: 7,773
Elgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Elgin Clock
Re: pic: AM Supershifter mount / cntr axle saddle rev 3

Oh man. The possibility of one of our newest sponsors having fun with that piece & making it out of bent sheetmetal kinda excites me...

Maybe we'll borrow your design this year, who knows?
__________________
The influence of many leads to the individuality of one. - E.C.C. (That's me!!)


Last edited by Elgin Clock : 28-12-2007 at 14:37.
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 28-12-2007, 15:19
RedHeadRobotics's Avatar
RedHeadRobotics RedHeadRobotics is offline
Registered User
AKA: Brigid
FRC #2081 (Icarus)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Peoria, IL
Posts: 87
RedHeadRobotics will become famous soon enoughRedHeadRobotics will become famous soon enough
Re: pic: AM Supershifter mount / cntr axle saddle rev 3

Although this idea sounds a bit far fetched, the layout seems to make a lot more sense than Copley Square in Boston
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 28-12-2007, 15:23
Madison's Avatar
Madison Madison is offline
Dancing through life...
FRC #0488 (Xbot)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Rookie Year: 1999
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 5,243
Madison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: AM Supershifter mount / cntr axle saddle rev 3

I think you may see some binding trouble on the shaft if you try to make it pass through a third or fourth bearing once it's left the AM SuperShifter. Because you're bolting the transmission directly to this, there's no room for misalignment, so keep that in mind.
__________________
--Madison--

...down at the Ozdust!

Like a grand and miraculous spaceship, our planet has sailed through the universe of time. And for a brief moment, we have been among its many passengers.
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 28-12-2007, 18:41
IndySam's Avatar
IndySam IndySam is online now
Registered User
FRC #0829 (Digital Goats)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Indy
Posts: 3,354
IndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: AM Supershifter mount / cntr axle saddle rev 3

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Schuetze View Post
I am also considering not bolting to all four through bolts on the transmission. Anybody have any thoughts as to the strength of just bolting to the AM supershifter with just two bolts
You don’t have to use just the through bolts. There is plenty of space inside the SS to drill a couple of mounting holes.


Good luck, I like your design.
__________________
"Champions are champions not because they do anything extraordinary but because they do the ordinary things better than anyone else." —Chuck Knoll


2015 Indianapolis District Winner
2014 Boilermaker Regional Industrial Design Award
2013 Smoky Mountain Regional Industrial Design Award
2012 Boilermaker Engineering Excellence Award
2010 Boilermaker Rockwell Innovation in Control Award.
2009 Buckeye J&J Gracious Professionalism Award
2009 Boilermaker J&J Gracious Professionalism Award
2008 Boilermaker J&J Gracious Professionalism Award
2007 St Louis Regional Winners
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hex vs. Dead axle GMKlenklen Technical Discussion 5 16-12-2006 19:58
pic: Mecanum Wheel Project - Rev. D Madison Technical Discussion 17 07-08-2006 18:19
pic: Mecanum Wheel Project - Rev. E Madison Technical Discussion 8 13-07-2006 13:31
axle problems illumanat'i Technical Discussion 8 02-02-2003 02:01
axle thread size archiver 2000 3 23-06-2002 22:50


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:32.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi