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That is a large number of of really big components to fit in a small space.
I did it! in SolidWorks! on this chassis! The power distribution block, and the sidecar make your layout a lot simpler, routing all of the same types of wires to one place on the robot, so you can efficiently place things like the hulking jaguars without much heartache. there are also no need for arrays of spikes, or multiple breaker panels for your larger motors.
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I did it! in SolidWorks! on this chassis! The power distribution block, and the sidecar make your layout a lot simpler, routing all of the same types of wires to one place on the robot, so you can efficiently place things like the hulking jaguars without much heartache. there are also no need for arrays of spikes, or multiple breaker panels for your larger motors.
Wanna post a render, I'm curious
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Re: pic: Early Bird Control System

I'm so glad they're giving us good joysticks this year, I've got an Attack 3 that I've had for several years now and it works very well for almost anything. I actually considered using mine on the robot this year if we didn't get good ones in the kit, I guess this solves that problem.
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I'm so glad they're giving us good joysticks this year, I've got an Attack 3 that I've had for several years now and it works very well for almost anything. I actually considered using mine on the robot this year if we didn't get good ones in the kit, I guess this solves that problem.
I agree even though everyone says I am nuts for not liking the flight sticks!
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I agree even though everyone says I am nuts for not liking the flight sticks!
any "old timer" in FIRST is going to miss those flight sticks, nothing too flashy, just a solid piece of equipment
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any "old timer" in FIRST is going to miss those flight sticks, nothing too flashy, just a solid piece of equipment
Every REALLY old "old-timer" is going to miss the sticks before those! Yep, the single-button, single-trigger, ambidextrous ones that came pre-2004 were missed (and used at every opportunity possible by those who had them and didn't like the ones provided).
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Every REALLY old "old-timer" is going to miss the sticks before those! Yep, the single-button, single-trigger, ambidextrous ones that came pre-2004 were missed (and used at every opportunity possible by those who had them and didn't like the ones provided).
The pre-2004 black joysticks you refer too are these Flightsticks we speak of. I don't actually know the name of the tan ones we've been getting recently, but very few people that have used the old standbys like them better.
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I don't actually know the name of the tan ones we've been getting recently, but very few people that have used the old standbys like them better.
I don't know the name of the tan ones either, and most of the names I've heard used for them are not suitable for this forum...

We used to check the local Goodwill and thrift stores on a regular basis to pick up old high-quality joysticks. I'm glad that will be a thing of the past.
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The pre-2004 black joysticks you refer too are these Flightsticks we speak of. I don't actually know the name of the tan ones we've been getting recently, but very few people that have used the old standbys like them better.
I believe those were also known as Flightsticks. The older ones had the designation "CH" in front. And the teams that had the newer ones--well, some teams didn't like them much--too loose, or not ambidextrous, or too many buttons, or something like that, so they modified them appropriately or went to something else entirely. The older black sticks (some were black and tan/white/gray) have been used by those who don't like the most recent ones.
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So given the cult following the Flightsticks have, has anyone tested the USB-based Flightstick Pro that CH Products still produces with the new driver's station? It seems that they've dropped the standard USB Flightstick, but it seemed like there were a lot more of them in odd shops and eBay than there were gameport ones back in 2004 and 2005 when everyone was scrambling to find the latter.
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I don't actually know the name of the tan ones we've been getting recently, but very few people that have used the old standbys like them better.
Those off-white right-hand-only joysticks are labeled "A/B". I typically called them the "POS" joysticks, though. They're capable of being modified to work well, but out of the box they are...poor.
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Those off-white right-hand-only joysticks are labeled "A/B". I typically called them the "POS" joysticks, though. They're capable of being modified to work well, but out of the box they are...poor.
Agreed. When trying to use them for tank drive they are just plain "Bad."
The new Attack 3 sticks look much better. I'll know more when my team pulls them out of the box tomorrow.
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I'll be very interested to see how the new fuseblock does under high current loads... PC boards have amazed me in the past with how much current traces can handle, but... I just don't know. 4 cims running at max fuse current. That can happen for a few moments as you're accelerating... I'll be interested to see if the voltage supply to the motors drops a rediculous amount. I mean, that's 160A trying to push through a PC board... the same thing we use a giant block of gold plated copper to do now. Just seems like either we're WAY overdoing it with the current maxi block, or the PC board will be overwhelmed... anyone care to offer their opinion on this?

What are the little blue things to the right of the OI panel (there are three of them sitting on black antistatic bags)?

I can hardly wait for us to get ours... I so want to see how much of the vision tools suite they gave teams.

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Those are the analog and pneumatic breakouts (formerly called bumpers)
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Those are the analog and pneumatic breakouts (formerly called bumpers)
Two are analog breakouts and one is a solenoid breakout
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