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[Scott Hill]

Originally Posted by Abwehr

There is no way (in my opinion) that this is a legal frame. The GDC has clearly and repeatedly stated through the Q&A that all bumper perimeter corners must be protected on both sides by a bumper segment of at least 6 inches. You are taking an enormous risk if you play the "it's not a rule" card.

Rules don't trump other rules, ALL rules must be obeyed. There is no way that the configuration shown meets all of the rules set forth by the GDC. We went through this same process with concave openings on the front of the machine (see this), and the GDC was firm in reaffirming that the rules are the rules.

Hopefully the GDC responds to your question clearly and unambiguously, but we've been snakebitten by the letter of the law before. Good luck!

Abwehr,
The GDC has clearly and repeatedly stated, through the Q&A, "both sides of the corner must be protected by bumper segments". And they have stated "bumper segments must be a minimum of 6". I don't believe they have ever stated ..."all bumper perimeter corners must be protected on both sides by a bumper segment of at least 6." The statements do not mean the same thing. Also, this condition is significantly different from the concave corners discussion. I agree with you that the rules are the rules, we all just need to understand them. Go to the "is this corner considered protected" thread for a more in depth discussion.

Thanks,
scott

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Scott Hill

Abwehr,
The GDC has clearly and repeatedly stated, through the Q&A, "both sides of the corner must be protected by bumper segments". And they have stated "bumper segments must be a minimum of 6". I don't believe they have ever stated ..."all bumper perimeter corners must be protected on both sides by a bumper segment of at least 6." The statements do not mean the same thing. Also, this condition is significantly different from the concave corners discussion. I agree with you that the rules are the rules, we all just need to understand them. Go to the "is this corner considered protected" thread for a more in depth discussion.

Thanks,
scott

Scott,

I'm not sure what's unclear about "bumper segments". Segments is plural. That implies two bumper segments, which means both sides of the corner.

Originally Posted by Matt C

I'm sure they would get a useful answer if they provided the illustration to the GDC that they provided to us.

The odds of that are just about zero. The GDC has stated that they will not comment on the legality of specific designs.

[Molten]

Hill:
Ok, here's a thought. Listen to lavery. Ask the Q&A and listen to their response. I've read your posts on the Q&A and must say that they answered your question. Their answer was that it is up to the ref. Now, this means: Go ahead with the design and test your luck with the refs, or use a design that you are already 100% certain is completely allowed. How was their response not clear? They answered the question the only way they can.