How is the Witholding Allowance at events being enforced?

[RoboMom]

Originally Posted by Michael Sperber

At the CT Regional we will be weighing any team that does in fact bring in a kitchen sink.

At the Chesapeake Regional, we will be weighing any team that brings in a kitchen sink (or other major appliances) or an extra robot...

[Although an exception might be made as I see 303 is coming to the Yard this year, and I remember they had a pretty impressive Fridge ...]

[petek]

Any team bringing a kitchen sink, any major appliance or a spare robot to New Jersey or Pittsburgh will be weighed. Now I just have to find a scale big enough to fit a team...

Seriously! I expect to follow what I understand to be the intent of <R36> (allow teams more time to work with their control systems) and just look out for anyone trying to bring in greater than half a robot. Or a kitchen sink.

[Elgin Clock]

Anne, Mike, Jenny & Pete, I thank you very much so for being light-hearted about this situation!

I'm not sure if the 4 of you have read some of the comments in the other Witholding Allowance threads, but it seemed to have gotten a lot of people (not necessarily whole teams) a bit riled up. (Big surprise right?? )

Anyways, my hope is that every regional is as flexible as you all are being here & that teams don't get too worked up about some of the (relatively) crazy details in this clause this year & are understanding as well.

Also, if the 4 of you have any influence in regards to FIRST releasing some info on this in a future pre-regional event E-Mail blast about this situation to "calm the masses" so to speak, I'm sure a lot of people would be very grateful!

Thanks again!

Sincerely
-Elgin Clock

[IndySam]

We will be bringing in a large 32lb assembly. We plan on taking it straight to the inspectors to have it weighed and OK'd.

As long as teams are proactive like this I don't see a big problem occurring.

[Racer26]

I dont know. It seems to me to be a fairly difficult rule to enforce, just as it always has been. Everyone knows there have been dishonest teams in the past who've brought parts built after build season into a competition and gotten away with it. Allowing 40lbs just makes their past practices closer to being legal, but if they're over the 40lbs, they'll still find a way to hide it. I think its a rule that is likely to go relatively unenforced.

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by IndySam

We will be bringing in a large 32lb assembly. We plan on taking it straight to the inspectors to have it weighed and OK'd.

As long as teams are proactive like this I don't see a big problem occurring.

This is a grounded, calm approach to problem solving. Thanks for the input, Indy.

[johnr]

Dear jane,please don't go to the battery thread. You seem to be a very level headed ,nice person. Right now is not the time for ," rules are rules". I don't want to see you get lambasted. We need to vent.

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by johnr

Dear jane,please don't go to the battery thread. You seem to be a very level headed ,nice person. Right now is not the time for ," rules are rules". I don't want to see you get lambasted. We need to vent.

John,
Vent all you want. If I get lambasted, I can take it. Thank you for your concern, though.

P.S. - sorry John, I had already posted in one of the threads before reading your kind warning. I just noticed that.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by Bill's Blog

At the Regional events, teams will be able to bring in hand tools during early uncrating (when you take the robot out of its crate and plug in your batteries). Then hand carry in the rest of your supplies in one trip during event check-in. We will be checking. Robot parts are not permitted to be brought in during crate opening. Please be sure to pack your 40 pounds of withholding so it may be easily identified and weighed if necessary.

Oh, and if that kitchen sink is COTS, are you still going to weigh it?

[Booksy]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

Oh, and if that kitchen sink is COTS, are you still going to weigh it?

If I washed my hands in it is it still considered COTS? I packed it back up!

[petek]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

Oh, and if that kitchen sink is COTS, are you still going to weigh it?

I stand corrected. Teams may bring in as many unmodified kitchen sinks and major appliances as they can fit in their pit stalls.

[EricH]

This thread is going down the drain...

[ZakuAce]

Originally Posted by EricH

This thread is going down the drain...

Nice

Can we fit a hot tub in the pit area?

[DonRotolo]

Originally Posted by petek

Any team bringing a kitchen sink, any major appliance or a spare robot to New Jersey or Pittsburgh will be weighed.

Whew! That means our bathroom sink is safe...

Originally Posted by ZakuAce

Can we fit a hot tub in the pit area?

Provided it meets all other rules, and is smaller than the allotted area (often 10 x 10 feet, but sometimes less), I don't see why not.

Just note that you are not allowed to bring in your own water...and at about $2.50 per half-liter.........

[Wayne C.]

Originally Posted by petek

I stand corrected. Teams may bring in as many unmodified kitchen sinks and major appliances as they can fit in their pit stalls.

why am I getting that sinking feeling....